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  • rushyrulz
    Digital Dancing!
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2006
    • 12985

    #1246
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

    Originally posted by krunkykai22
    Why not take the 3 highest ratings and add them up and average them out.
    Because 5/3/3/2 would be passing lol. Take out the oddball and (3+3+2)/3 = 2.6 (rightful reject)


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    • ichliebekase
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • May 2006
      • 3213

      #1247
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

      Originally posted by qqwref
      Maybe it would be easier to just add another symbol for the grading: [jx], which means "I don't care what the other judges think, jx should personally decide whether to accept this song or not".
      Not just jx, but bmah as well. Especially if one of them was a judge in the first place of the file [example: someone in group 2 this batch wants a "jx" grading but he already was a judge for that group, it'd go to bmah instead to keep it fair.]
      Glorious Morning - Misc, level 48
      We Will Fly - Dance 2, level 53
      =.The Ocean.= - Dance 2, level 56, collab with krunkykai22
      Garden Party - Dance, level 38

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      • krunkykai22
        <3 Jumpstream <3
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jan 2006
        • 5436

        #1248
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

        And in that case you put the file under a "controversial" review. You take the file and send it to JX and bmah and take the mean of there ratings.

        IE;

        TC_Halogen = 5
        qqwref = 5
        i love you = 1
        samurai = 1

        Goes to JX and bmah

        JX = 5
        bmah = 3

        Score = 4


        Or any other two judges that would fit the profile so to say.

        Originally posted by rushyrulz
        Because 5/3/3/2 would be passing lol. Take out the oddball and (3+3+2)/3 = 2.6 (rightful reject)


        Not if the passing grade is a 4. Which is what it should be. 3.7 to be exact.

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        • Mans0n
          Sun and Stars
          FFR Music Producer
          • Sep 2006
          • 2907

          #1249
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

          Originally posted by bmah
          I'll be updating the notes in a moment, and yes, you're right.
          ****in sweet, thanks bmah u da man.


          that includes all simfile judges as well.
          http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread



          Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

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          • rushyrulz
            Digital Dancing!
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 12985

            #1250
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

            Originally posted by krunkykai22
            Not if the passing grade is a 4. Which is what it should be. 3.7 to be exact.
            5/4/3/2 would be passing, your move


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            • TC_Halogen
              Rhythm game specialist.
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2008
              • 19376

              #1251
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

              Using an averaging system with a huge spread of ratings (5/5/5/1, 5/5/4/1, 5/5/1/2, w/e), you can have JX/bmah come in to add a 5th and 6th rating to help level (or lower if rightfully deserved).

              That might help with files that have wild ranges.

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              • krunkykai22
                <3 Jumpstream <3
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2006
                • 5436

                #1252
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                Yeah a 5-3-3-2 file isn't passing. Put it to the calculator it equals out at = 3.6666 whatever.

                Under the 3.7 passing grade it does not pass.

                3-5-4 would pass with an average 4.
                4-4-4 Would pass obviously with an average 4.

                It would make things easier to use 3.7/3.8 which would be borderline really good files.



                EDIT: yeah I know it would pass. But 3 is an average grade. Meaning it would pass if you look at school grades. C is average to be honest, and you pass with that.

                A 5
                B 4
                C 3
                D 2
                F 1

                There.

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                • i love you
                  Live a wonderful life~
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 7313

                  #1253
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                  So getting straight B's in this judging system is considered a conditional?!

                  Man, getting an FFR education ain't no joke.

                  @ Bmah, am i allow to post my notes here?
                  ===============================
                  The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~
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                  • ichliebekase
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • May 2006
                    • 3213

                    #1254
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                    With the whole average stuff, all of the notes written would have to be put into consideration no matter what. If a file gets 5 3 3 2 and the person who gave the 2 has fully legitimate reasons as to why they gave that rating and ways to fix it, then obviously it'd have to truly be considered. It's all conditional.
                    Glorious Morning - Misc, level 48
                    We Will Fly - Dance 2, level 53
                    =.The Ocean.= - Dance 2, level 56, collab with krunkykai22
                    Garden Party - Dance, level 38

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                    • Plan_Bsk81127
                      snooches
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6420

                      #1255
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                      Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                      YES, I AM SUFFERING TO THE MIDDLE SECTION OF THE SONG, THANKS FOR ASKING

                      Assuming suffering means referring in your language, no, I'm not talking about the middle.

                      I'm actually referring to the introduction, where you have repeated descending scales, and the first note is accented with a jump. It's just a descending 4-3-2-1-4-3-2-1 (etc.) scale that repeats over and over again. When the strings come in, you could have an actual excuse to use jumps if you so chose to.

                      A lot of the pitch relevancy in the song is generally incorrect in terms of following the piano, and while I understand the accenting of jumps for heavier sounds or a louder piano, you should still try to improve upon the general pitch because the song itself is relatively short.
                      Ight, I'll look into it some more. Was kinda thinking it was the middle part at first since that was one of the parts I was iffy about, but I'll relook through it and mess around with it a bit to see what comes out. Piano songs are tricky so im still learning about the whole correct PR to use and such for them. lol.

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                      • krunkykai22
                        <3 Jumpstream <3
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 5436

                        #1256
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                        You know, Byron that is the best post I've seen in a long time.

                        If you look at the way judging and reviews have gone in the past 3 or 4 batches, you'll see just how strict the majority of people have gotten.

                        The file would have to be amazing to pass to be honest.

                        This system with a 3.8 makes the files Great. Not AMAZING because to be honest, some files may be great to some and shitty to another. RATO/DP/grind2/RAN for example. Those files to some are the shittiest things ever. But to the judges it passed.

                        And, in my opinion, not all songs have to be FANTASTIC OR AMAZING to 3/4 judges for the file to pass. It can be acceptable.

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                        • TC_Halogen
                          Rhythm game specialist.
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 19376

                          #1257
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                          Originally posted by Plan_Bsk81127
                          Ight, I'll look into it some more. Was kinda thinking it was the middle part at first since that was one of the parts I was iffy about, but I'll relook through it and mess around with it a bit to see what comes out. Piano songs are tricky so im still learning about the whole correct PR to use and such for them. lol.
                          Hey man, it comes with a lot of practice. Here's a general idea for you to follow for songs that have a running melody (and therefore will be your main source of layering) -- try to make running melodies PR'd, and then any accents that play along side of them that you choose, to be free-form. This way, you can accurately represent your running melody with good pitch, and then accurately account for accents by increases in layering when they're due.

                          Also, not really going to go about how to deal with the rating system; it might upset some people. All I will say is, 16 should be a borderline, but only 4/4/4/4 should pass without an appeal of any sort (4 +.'s equals consistency).

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                          • who_cares973
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 15407

                            #1258
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                            jesus christ stop your bitching


                            dossar stop with your butthurt bullshit

                            everyone else stop with your butthurt bullshit

                            DEAL WITH IT BITCHES IF YOU DONT LIKE IT SUBMIT YOUR SHIT TO ANOTHER SITE/PACK OR RELEASE AS A SINGLE

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                            • bmah
                              shots FIRED
                              Profile Moderator
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              Global Moderator
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 8448

                              #1259
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                              Originally posted by Mans0n
                              ****in sweet, thanks bmah u da man.


                              that includes all simfile judges as well.
                              ok, done

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                              • kommisar
                                Dark Chancellor
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 7324

                                #1260
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                                Get over your files being rejected and seek insightful ways to make your files better rather than make up excuses and try to work around the system :/

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