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  • kommisar
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    • Jun 2005
    • 7324

    #346
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

    ap if i judged all the files like you did as i would like, everyone would be butthurt and question my judgment.

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    • Arch0wl
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      • Dec 2002
      • 6344

      #347
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

      I agree with qqwref. The criteria for admission here is pointlessly and often problematically strict. It reminds me of poorly structured group assignments. As of right now, most of the files in the batch were made competently enough that disagreements will come from stylistic differences and not objective issues like sync or pattern contradiction. I judged based on how I liked the files from my style's perspective, because that's all you can do, but it's frustrating to know that one bad rating from me might mean that someone's file didn't get in the game. Throwing a bunch of people at a batch doesn't make an accepted file somehow objectively better -- it makes it lucky that it didn't get conflicting judges.

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      • bmah
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        • Oct 2003
        • 8448

        #348
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

        Right, isn't this true for ALL songs? At your skill level a playable 13 would be too hard; for more casual players anything 8+ might be impossibly fast, and only get played for mashed passes. On the other side, of course, I'm sure not going to play a very slow file (say, 1-6 difficulty) over and over, because even if I love the song it's just not physically interesting to play for me. And even a 7-9 would only get replayed after I AAA it if it's an awesome file (++ worthy or nearly). But I'm not going to throw a 3 out of the game just for being a 3, and I think you should do the same for a 13. Don't just think of yourself, think of the file and how the community would think of it.
        Which is why I stated that I couldn't fairly make a proper evaluation and didn't provide an official judgment on Metro. In addition, there are a lot less people at a higher skill level than a lower one, so while you can surely apply the generalization you've illustrated to any situation, there are surely more people who can play and enjoy a 9 than a 13, and more that may enjoy a 7 than a 9.

        If anything qq, I'm constantly trying to think of how the community may react to these things, which is why I've made an attempt in this batch to make easier songs (failed attempt I must say). I try to diversify my files and make various considerations when reviewing files of varying patterns, styles, and difficulties. Sometimes awkward patterns might be a welcome change for instance, than a typical spread pattern. Or perhaps this sort of file would appeal to xx audience. So far, I won't give a specific grade for Metro. Selfishness is the last thing on my mind, got it?
        Last edited by bmah; 02-1-2011, 02:33 PM.

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        • kommisar
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          • Jun 2005
          • 7324

          #349
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

          rough.


          btw if i sent multiple charts (two separate songs) does it count as 1 file or 2

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          • bmah
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            • Oct 2003
            • 8448

            #350
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

            Two.

            Arch sent two difficulties of XP Sounds last batch, and that also would be considered 2 files.

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            • kommisar
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              • Jun 2005
              • 7324

              #351
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

              screw it then, nobody would play mathsma attack shd

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              • aperson
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                • Jul 2003
                • 3431

                #352
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                Originally posted by Arch0wl
                I agree with qqwref. The criteria for admission here is pointlessly and often problematically strict.
                Are you kidding look at some of the stuff that gets accepted

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                • Plan_Bsk81127
                  snooches
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6420

                  #353
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                  I wouldnt mind Metro being in, FFR needs more like hard hard songs like high FGO+, there are a nice chunk of players that are narrowing down to only having like 2ish difficulties left to play from because they have AAA'd everything else. If you dont bring in more real hard file people are just going to end up being bored with FFR due to getting sick of playing the same 2 difficutlties over and over.

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                  • aperson
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3431

                    #354
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                    I'm fine bringing in hard files but the charts have to be good too

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                    • kommisar
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                      • Jun 2005
                      • 7324

                      #355
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                      there is such a thing as a good hard file that isn't LOL BURSTS 64TH WALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS LOOK AT MY RAINBOW INCOHERENT PATTERNS HOLY **** I AM HARD RIGHT NOW

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                      • TC_Halogen
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #356
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                        oops


                        EDIT: brb too coherent

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                        • Plan_Bsk81127
                          snooches
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6420

                          #357
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                          He sent me the file awhile back, I dont remember it too well/know what he edited. Just remember it being a very fast file.

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                          • kommisar
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                            • Jun 2005
                            • 7324

                            #358
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                            wowowow bmah where did arrogant cobbler go


                            i'm sending it this batch

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                            • leonid
                              I am leonid
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                              • Oct 2008
                              • 8080

                              #359
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                              If a file feels comfortable to many players it probably isn't a hard file



                              Proud member of Team No

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                              • Arch0wl
                                Banned
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 6344

                                #360
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                                Originally posted by aperson
                                Are you kidding look at some of the stuff that gets accepted
                                I am not kidding. Files are accepted which aren't to your stylistic preferences; that is and should be the case with everyone's preferences.

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