Black Racists

[xWnLx Crisco]

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I would LOVE to see these "white" only organizations personally. Just because it might be a harder place to get into without certain credentials doesn't mean its a "white only".

For the question originally asked I would have to say yes but Im scared that I might be racist now. The double standard here in America for the African American race is by far the worst. Like we all know they can say what they want in songs, TV, and in person but god forbid a white person do the same. The one thing that really gets me is they get their month, TV show, magazines, College Funds, special lawyers, and special laws but they still insist that they are "punished".

Why can't we have a month for the Jewish and German people for WW2? They were destroyed and got nothing close to what African Americans get in American to this day. When you hear people like Rev. Sharpton and Jackson (which aren't real reverends) talk about how their ancestors were treated bad so they should get a special privilege but don't talk about how African Americans sold and bought slaves for their farms.

Some of the things those 2 men say are real shocking on how racist they actually are. But since they are already a minority they can't be punished.

Overall Poverty is poverty and African American is well you guessed it African American. Those don't automatically mean they go with each other and should not be an excuse for anyone.

[slickhare]

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SUMMARY: Why are there so many organizations who only support black people and no one else?

People often answer this question in their own arguements on this subject without realizing it. Let's face it, the black race has a problem portion amongst them. I'm talking about the ones who glorify the thug lifestyle, neglect intelligence, the negative members of the black community. The intention (though I admit, not often the effect) of said "organizations" is to reward and uplift positive members of the black community: those that don't adhere to the stereotypes, value their opportunities and education. Sure, some that don't really deserve the benefits get them, and that's wrong. But the point is to encourage a new mindset in that negative portion of the community, by removing any excuses from the equation, like "i'm too impoverished" or "the man is holding me down". Sure the organizations impose their own problems by trying to remove others, but the intent is good, not to "stick it to white man" as I have often heard it put.

I would LOVE to see these "white" only organizations personally. Just because it might be a harder place to get into without certain credentials doesn't mean its a "white only".

For the question originally asked I would have to say yes but Im scared that I might be racist now. The double standard here in America for the African American race is by far the worst. Like we all know they can say what they want in songs, TV, and in person but god forbid a white person do the same. The one thing that really gets me is they get their month, TV show, magazines, College Funds, special lawyers, and special laws but they still insist that they are "punished".

Why can't we have a month for the Jewish and German people for WW2? They were destroyed and got nothing close to what African Americans get in American to this day. When you hear people like Rev. Sharpton and Jackson (which aren't real reverends) talk about how their ancestors were treated bad so they should get a special privilege but don't talk about how African Americans sold and bought slaves for their farms.

Some of the things those 2 men say are real shocking on how racist they actually are. But since they are already a minority they can't be punished.

Overall Poverty is poverty and African American is well you guessed it African American. Those don't automatically mean they go with each other and should not be an excuse for anyone.

Fact: Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton do not speak for the whole black community. I wish people would realize that all blacks aren't sitting on their bums whining about slavery.

[gnr61]

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[QUOTE=Relambrien;1561854]I agree with Devonin. Programs like these and governmental "affirmative action" policies are meant to be reparations for years of discrimination against minorities (and women too, but that's for a slightly different topic). But the irony is that in trying to make amends for discrimination, they discriminate themselves, by reversing the positions.
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A good argument, but untrue. Affirmative action policies are not meant as reparations for slavery or anything of the sort (they often apply to other minority groups as well), but rather an attempt to make equality within educational and occupational systems by looking at the statistics behind poverty and poor schooling--which most often goes hand in hand with race. Therefore, minorities are often given more opportunities in say, college admissions, because there is a high possibility that they grew up poor and went to poor schools that could not afford to educate them. White people who may be better qualified often do not get accepted because of affirmative action (there have in fact been lawsuits about it). The main problem with affirmative action is that admissions cannot be based on race, simply put. Yes, it is true that a black person has a higher chance of having grown up with a bad education and therefore SHOULD get some benefit in regards to education and occupation. But it is also true that there are white people who grow up poor and should recieve benefits as well--but do not because they are assumed to have had a good education because of their race. Just as there are black people who have grown up with good educations and have had plenty of money, but are assumed dirt poor by college admissions and are thus accepted because of their race, not the merit they had built up over many years.

Some form of affirmative action can exist and help eliminate inequality (in the form of giving benefits to only those from poor backgrounds with fewer opportunities--black or white), but as it is now, it only perpetuates stereotypes. It quite literally institutionalizes the idea that black people are poor, white people are rich, and therefore black people need help in the real world.

[devonin]

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Yes, it is true that a black person has a higher chance of having grown up with a bad education and therefore SHOULD get some benefit in regards to education and occupation.

Why? The -only- way you can possibly "explain" why black people who grow up with a lack of money or a lack of education should get an extra boost simply because they are also black is to claim that "black people" are somehow intrinsically poor or stupid.

In the United States it is the case that the overwhelming majority of blacks in say...the 1850s were slaves (I'm pretty sure that an at least 80% majority of blacks in the US -before- the civil war were in fact slaves, correct me if I'm wrong there) Since then, a very large number of black families, having been freed from slavery, and given the legal rights of citizens (Yes, of course they had to further fight for equal status, right up through MLK) have done perfectly well for themselves. They've pulled themselves out of poverty, and the black community is very well represented in a large number of fields, politics, law, medicine etc etc. There are hundreds of thousands of "pulled up by my bootstraps" success stories.

That so many black people and families were capable of going from such terrible and abject discrimination and oppression to become successful, educated members of the community lends total lie to any claim that black people are somehow inherantly incapable of making that transition.

Instead of concluding that because so many black communities are poor and poorly educated, the system must still be oppressing them, so we are obligated to give them unfair extra advantages to "balance it out," perhaps one ought to conclude that since there are so many unfair advantages that are given to "balance it out" there's just no incentive for the black communities to really put the work and effort into getting there on their own like so many of their forebearers worked so hard to do.

If you know (And this is the case) that several very well respected American colleges assign the same amount of points in their application process to "Being black" as they do for "A perfect SAT score" and you know (And this is also the case) that any number of educational instituitions and places of employment are -required- to have a certain number of black employees, regardless of whether there was 1, 10 or 1000 more qualified non-black applicants, keeping this image alive, so you can keep these absurd policies alive seems like a pretty "smart" move to me.

[00Razor00]

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This thread = Novacaine.
Written all over it.

[purebloodtexan]

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This thread = Novacaine.
Written all over it.

Dude, whether this thread is worthy of it or not, this is Critical Thinking. Type intelligently.

[elmo561]

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hi

[elmo561]

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um

[purebloodtexan]

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The same applies for you too, and don't double post.

[hayatewillown]

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Does anyone else find this to be quite racist as there are people who get very touchy and uptight if you do something as small as call a black person black?

Ah, only to be in a world of Full Metal Jacket..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HhaqCT-h1i0

[Orch_Dork]

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I wouldn't want to see the white poverty schools anyways. Even though im half white. If you have seen a poor white person they normally look like trailor trash, and people like Eminem pop up. You don't want to see a whole bunch of them do you.

[hayatewillown]

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I wouldn't want to see the white poverty schools anyways. Even though im half white. If you have seen a poor white person they normally look like trailor trash, and people like Eminem pop up. You don't want to see a whole bunch of them do you.

People like Eminem? OH! You mean celebrities!

[Orch_Dork]

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No i mean retarded redneck hick people

[devonin]

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nothing quite suits a thread on racism and ignorant bigotry quite like more racsim and ignorant bigotry.

[Orch_Dork]

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i know, huh?