Black Racists

[fido123]

Today for some reason I began to watch Opera for the first time I think I ever had as nothing else was on. They were doing an episode on this school that only takes poor black people. Does anyone else find this to be quite racist as there are people who get very touchy and uptight if you do something as small as call a black person black? There are many poor white people but this school rejects them and the level of education there is incredibly high. They have a health center, top-of-the-line computer and parenting courses. I understand in many areas black people have a higher percentage of poverty and according to Opera 1/3 of black males will end up in prison so in some sense white people are a minority in criminals. Why are white poor people not included in all these programs? Isn't this the whole basis of racism?

SUMMARY: Why are there so many organizations who only support black people and no one else?

[phe0nixblade]

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I stopped at Opera.

[fido123]

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May I remind you this is CT...only post if it contributes

and Oh god I know...why the hell I'm I still watching this crap lol

[stretchypanda]

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May I remind you this is CT

3. Please, use spellcheck, or atleast form sentences that make sense. Pretend that you are writing an Essay for class.

You seem to have a decent idea for a thread, so I'll let this go, but if you're going to post in Critical Thinking, you're going to have to take a little time to write a well thought-out sentence or two.

[purebloodtexan]

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It's sad but true: A good portion of minorities, most of them black, pay very little attention to education, are often violent, and some live in poor areas. It's just life.

Also, I can see the intent behind this, but I don't know if this is a definite CT thread.

[fido123]

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You seem to have a decent idea for a thread, so I'll let this go, but if you're going to post in Critical Thinking, you're going to have to take a little time to write a well thought-out sentence or two.

Yeah...I was thinking of CC but thats almost like TGB now but without the panel of elitists on high horses

It's sad but true: A good portion of minorities, most of them black, pay very little attention to education, are often violent, and some live in poor areas. It's just life.

Also, I can see the intent behind this, but I don't know if this is a definite CT thread.

Why can't it be for all underprivlaged people? I think people should be racially blind.

[Istarikitsunelover]

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(You go to the Opera, you watch Oprah).

To get back at their 1000000 years of being underrepresented. I was the only 'minority' in my Catholic high school, but being a minority is what gave me a better chance in college. It's all relative. I was also smart, which is the reason I actually got accepted in the first place.

There are also many organizations that are biased to white people, but I can see what you mean. The groups for white people are mainly for the elitist to show they are better than anyone else, and the groups for black people are to try and bring them to a status where they are not less than human.

[purebloodtexan]

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That's nice thinking, but it's still a CC thread.

[stretchypanda]

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That's nice thinking, but it's still a CC thread.

I disagree.

[fido123]

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There are also many organizations that are biased to white people, but I can see what you mean. The groups for white people are mainly for the elitist to show they are better than anyone else, and the groups for black people are to try and bring them to a status where they are not less than human.

However things such s this school are seriously steriotyping that all black people are poor and they are steriotyping themselves. However I do agree thre are a few white biased organization out their but they should take that to court instead of fanning the flames.

[devonin]

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At what point does a group that was oppressed lose the ability to blame their every problem on having been oppressed?

Whites had black slaves. Blacks had middle eastern/east indian slaves before that. I'm curious when the statute of limitations on sins of fathers actually runs out.

I'm white...my family had never even -seen- a black person until they emigrated to Canada in the 1950s, ought I somehow be made to 'pay' for slavery?

[Relambrien]

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I agree with Devonin. Programs like these and governmental "affirmative action" policies are meant to be reparations for years of discrimination against minorities (and women too, but that's for a slightly different topic). But the irony is that in trying to make amends for discrimination, they discriminate themselves, by reversing the positions.

My uncle worked for General Motors, and went into an interview for a promotion to a higher position. His competition was a black person (I will not say "African American" because the guy could've just as well been Jamaican, I don't know). My uncle didn't get the promotion, even though he had higher credentials and did better in the interview, simply because GM needed to have another black person in that position to comply with affirmative action policies.

Discrimination is still discrimination, regardless of whether or not the people being discriminated against are a majority or minority. Hiring someone (or accepting someone, in the case of a school) should not be based on race or gender at all, in my opinion. Affirmative action policies force companies to hire based on race, and that's still against what prominent American civil rights activists (Martin Luther King Jr., etc) wanted. He said something like this (I can't remember it verbatim):

"I have a dream that one day people will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

By giving preference to minorities as opposed to exclusion, people are still being judged by the color of their skin. As far as I'm concerned, race, gender, sexual preference, none of it should have ANY bearing at ALL, excepting in rare cases where difficulty may arise. For instance, a white person may be uncomfortable working in a black history museum, and I would consider this if I were hiring him. That's not the best example, but you get the idea. I don't believe that any of those things (race, etc.) can impede your ability to work, but simply for the sake of comfort for the employees and clients, there are situations in which they should be considered. Another example is that people might be somewhat uncomfortable if a white person were to be involved in the upper levels of the NAACP. I don't think he'd do the job any better or worse than a black person in the same position, but he and the NAACP members may feel awkward or uncomfortable with it. This is a situation in which race could be an issue, as workplace morale and thus effectiveness could be negatively affected by having a white person work there. Not because of his abilities, but simply his presence in an organization dedicated to "the advancement of colored people."

Hopefully you understand my meaning; I probably wasn't as clear as I would have liked. Sorry in advance for any misunderstandings.

[Engler]

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I stopped at Opera.

Heh heh...opera...heh...

[spinal_compression]

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I believe that it's as simple as a mind set. We grew up living with these things in the world. Therefore it is the way that society accepts these things to be.

[treeo'knowledge]

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i agree,if ppl try not to be racist, it just starts more fights!