Simply awesome!

[icontrolyourworld]

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actually i'd like to retract my previous post and hold a new stand
the whole family is stupid lol

[FontSize72LOL]

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I'm with Dossar 100%. That man is ****ing crazy. He's pretty similar to how my mother and stepfather were, i.e. they went apeshit if I slipped up even once. They didn't physically beat me or anything, but I'm not on speaking terms with them right now, and I'm definitely not the "good for nothing lazy drug addict" they predicted.

What we're not seeing on the camera is all the abuse that goes on. Most kids are going to post some kind of "life is so unfair i hate my parents QQ" on facebook at some point in time or another, and the appropriate response is "that was disrespectful, you're grounded for a week, no internet etc etc," not the over-the-top BS that this man created.

Anyone psycho enough to empty a pistol magazine into a laptop over some teenage drama posted on facebook has no business being a parent. Period.

I cant tell if this post was serious or not. While I'm sorry if you had a shitty childhood, We don't know all the information to really make a judgement, although if you were to go by the video, i believe he said something about her doing something like this before. Yes he went over the top, but if she is publicly disrespecting her parents (And trying to hide it) she deserves to get punished for it. Unfortunately these days its impossible to punish your own child anymore because any thing you do is either "Physical" or "Emotional" abuse.

[Syhto]

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This is just annoying. That's how teenagers are, and you aren't going to enlighten them through saying I did this I did that I did this you don't do shit do you see how immature you are, no it's just going to make them pissed and cry

yea she needs to learn how to deal with her parents and their ways but i hate this type of parenting

edit: especially considering teenagers do things on a whim like everyone else she probably didn't exactly mean what she said, she was trying to find a way to vent. regardless of how dumb it sounded or how wrong she was, to blow it out of proportion like that is just creating more conflict, the same type of conflict that probably drove her to be so annoyed, and as such there is just more confusion and resentment built into their relationship. so if respect is really what he wants her to show maybe he should be an adequate teacher and foster a loving environment based on more than material things

[FontSize72LOL]

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Yeah because teenagers these days are so oppressed.

[Syhto]

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well yeah life is confusing

[Emithith]

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Teenagers can't really think for themselves as well because the part of the brain that dictates judgement hasn't fully grown yet until they're like 19 or 20. :\

[Reincarnate]

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I am sorry but anyone who agrees with the way the father handled this is a complete and utter moron.

[Anaru]

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you're right the father should've handled it differently
he should've sued facebook for emotional and psychological damage for maximum profit

[Reincarnate]

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Incoming longpost.

Disclaimer: I'm not defending the daughter. We know little about her, but I am addressing the father. For all I know, the kid's a spoiled brat.

But what this father did was basically public humiliation -- and now it's to the tune of 22 MILLION views. That's not how you resolve conflict with your child.

He pretty much decided to invoke the old eye-for-an-eye parenting style. The daughter embarrasses the father and bruises his ego by posting something on Facebook, so the father decides the best way to handle the situation is to do the same passive-aggressive crap in return, and lace his video up with his overdramatic laptop-shooting bullshit. You could also tell from his body language/spoken language and the way he acted with the paper/cigarette that he's probably got some dominance/rage/control issues, here ("Oh look how tough and awesome I am!"). He could have just locked the laptop up or sold the thing (which, BTW, was apparently a school laptop), but instead he figures that blowing it up to make some immature point is the proper approach. You don't teach a child to be mature and respectful by being immature and disrespectful. "I told you if you ever did that again, it's gonna get a LOT worse..." / "I almost put a bullet through your laptop!" / "That [bullet]'s from [your mother]"? Seriously, he isn't talking as a father trying to teach his daughter a lesson, here -- he's just exacting selfish revenge because he's pissed.

Also, I was just WAITING for it... just WAITING for it... and as predicted, he went into a "When I was your age..." rant that so many bad parents love to launch into. So let's see. When he was 15, he moved out of the house, lived on his own, went to college while in high school, worked two jobs, and volunteered as a fireman. Whatever college he attended, it was probably something pretty easy, as he could barely put a sentence together. I'd love to see what kind of course he took and how he did them -- and how many hours he worked (or whether or not he was working all 2.5 jobs all four years). Something tells me he had it easier than he's letting on, here.

The fact that he's willing to bust a cap in a school laptop makes me wonder if he really prioritizes education much, since he has no problem making school tougher by taking away the computer permanently like that. And he said, "Your only responsibility is to get on the bus and go to school." Unless you're taking piss-easy classes and doing absolutely nothing, school's a huge responsibility. Again, it's more evidence as to how he treated his own education, honestly.

Moving out of the house before you start high school is very atypical and isn't exactly the norm for otherwise stable families. Furthermore, just because you may have had a shitty upbringing doesn't mean it's OK to punish your kids for it. I always hated it when I was little and I'd bring up a perfectly rational argument only to have it batted away with "No, because when I was your age..." I don't care if you grew up getting beaten by your parents, for instance -- that doesn't mean it was the best way to handle things, and it doesn't mean you should perpetuate the vicious cycle by making the same mistakes.

Respect is oftentimes a tool used by bad parents to justify whatever they want. There are all too-many situations where a child is upset/acting out/trying to negotiate something, and instead of taking advantage of those situations by teaching them valuable skills, parents will just invoke the old "No, shut up, do what I say, respect your elders" nonsense. Just because you are older doesn't mean you're smarter. Respect isn't automatic. It's earned. You aren't doing your children any favors by teaching them to blindly follow authority instead of questioning/bargaining/reasoning/discussing things rationally.

Now, is this kid overworked? Probably far from it. She's probably got it pretty easy, but it sends a mixed message when you have a cleaning woman who is being paid. The kid wonders why she can't be paid, too. He's probably never given any reasonable responses to that question. Just more of the same "Stfu and just do it" logic.

We also have no idea what the extent of the chores are or if the father's understating things about his daughter. I could easily point to countless messy-as-hell adults who leave tons of dishes all over the place and then retort to their kids with "Oh, come on, doing the dishes only takes a couple minutes." We don't really know if the father's making the daughter learn to clean up after herself and help keep shared living spaces tidy, or if he's just making messes and expecting them to be cleaned up after all the time. We just don't know.

At any rate, I can't imagine why so many people agree with this kind of nonsense.

[andy-o24]

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In light of what context we have to judge both the father and daughter, I see no reason to pick sides.

The daughter had to be venting her frustrations about petty things like chores and school work and what she thinks to be unfair. But, you have to understand that an immature, illogical 15-year-old, like most are, is going to assume, I blocked my parents on Facebook, there is no way they will see this. Realistically, she should have vented on a site or in a chat room that isn't as public as Facebook. But, like I said, she probably didn't think of that either because of her immaturity or her because her mind was fogged with her frustrations.

The dad had to teach the daughter a lesson somehow. This is a repeated offense on the part of the daughter and if a casual and calm conversation with your daughter isn't working you are either A) Doing it wrong or B) Don't really have control over your daughter in the first place. The type of action the father takes is extreme, but it sends a very powerful message and one that his daughter can relate to, understand, and see.

Neither of the parties in question seem to be the most logical. On one hand you have a young, immature girl who is venting her frustrations on a very public site, and on the other you have a father who will put $120 of software on his daughter's laptop to then shoot it with hollow point bullets. If this is his last resort to send a message to his daughter, he's lost her.

This is why we need good parenting skills these days. The society has become more and more digital in terms of communication and children are surrounded by means of having more freedom from the rules and restrictions of their parents. Without a firm hand to keep kids in their place and reinforce the fact that the parents ARE still in charge, we will just have more and more rebellious kids in the future generations.

And it doesn't help that we have kids who have to keep up with the technological advances that keep coming out year after year. Otherwise they won't *fit in.* This contributes to the problem that parents have with their children. They don't want to disappoint their kids and buy them these expensive toys when they haven't taught their children the fundamentals of responsibility and self control.

tl;dr: On-topic rant. What the girl should have done instead.

-o24

[UserNameGoesHere]

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Don't even have to click the link -- already saw it haha. Here's a little copy-paste from a discussion I had about it

"Surprised how many people thought he was some kind of badass or whatever. Badass? Really? He had to use a gun to make a point to a teenage girl. Weak. Plus it was to make up for his own failure (he failed by giving her a computer in the first place). A real man wouldn't have had to use a gun for that. A smart man wouldn't have made his mistake in the first place."

So ... yeah.

He comes across as very redneck and not very smart. He claims he works in IT but that could mean just about anything. There are lots of clueless people in "IT".

Here's to hoping that either 1) what he did was illegal and the cops bust him for it -- they have video proof .. and/or 2) his daughter runs off with some guy as soon as she hits 18 and he can't do a thing about it.

I bet he's not so tough without his gun too.

[Reincarnate]

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Some parents have spy software installed, so sometimes nothing's safe. I think it's funny that the dad acts like he's a super IT sleuth when all he did was probably install some script-kiddie keylogger or get a tip from a mutual friend/parent. How else would he even know about the FB post?

He comes across as very redneck and not very smart. He claims he works in IT but that could mean just about anything. There are lots of clueless people in "IT".

+1 for truth

[UserNameGoesHere]

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Lol ... having DIRECT easy access to the machine, there are AT LEAST 5 or 6 different easy methods I can think of off the top of my head.

He probably does technically work in IT but that encompasses such a vast array of jobs and positions, .. many of which are not so prestigious.

[DossarLX ODI]

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I like how Rubix expanded on the previous points I made and yet I received shit for it LOL

But that is a very well explained post, I agree it is very depressing to see how so many people agree with what the father did. That's telling me something really bad about society.....

One more thing:

Like how Rubix explained, anyone who thinks the daughter was an attention whore at this point is a total retard. The video has over 22 fucking million views and the guy shot the damn laptop for dramatic effect and revenge. pce

[8 Hour Whore]

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Too much lol for this.. Discussion shouldn't even be made over this really. Yes both were a little immature. Shit got done.. lessons were learned. Shouldn't even care about public humiliation in the first place.