Hearthstone

[L.B.D.D]

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shit man, thanks for the indepth overview

as i say here

rofl just beat a completely decked out hunter with a basic lv 10 mage deck

dude had some crazy gold/legendaries and almost 30->0 me in 1 turn but i still won

this was my first time versus a hunter (who kind of knew how to play his shit) and some of his combos are stupid (charge, +1 attack to all)
any idea on how to stop him releasing 3-4 2mana/3mana cards onto the board all at once on turn6+??

i think i'll be picking up on pally, priest and mage (mostly pally though, i really do like 2/1 or guaranteed 1/1 trades)

too bad his hero power is kinda meh for me.. when should i be using pally's hero power?
seems like the 1/1s get wiped by a lot of removal cards (mages come to mind) and the 1 damage is usually negligible, i guess i'd only use pally hero power only when i have nothing to play (which probably means im either losing or board is near full)

[Litodude]

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i need a key lol i made a thread like 2 months ago :/

[omega_grunt666]

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That deck is hard to play against, but its being nerfed next patch. Otherwise some good cards to look into are Sen'jin Shieldmasta (Taz'dingo!), Sunwalker, Abomination. Taunts are usually pretty good against it, Otherwise I would take Faerie Dragon as a creature they have trouble dealing with since it can't be directly removed and can force them to play a creature instead of hiding behind spells/traps. And generally a 3/2 for 2 is pretty good, ones that have added bonuses like Youthful Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon/Acidic Ooze are just great. OTK Hunters are also why rush decks are so popular right now, if you can kill them before that turn 6/7 unleash then easy win. If you're playing mage, Ice Block/Barrier can stop a hunter rush and leave them open for another turn to give you more time to burn.

As for paladins, hero power whenever you aren't going to spend the mana on something more important, even against a mage/druid/rogue making them spend that mana to keep the board clear can be good for you. Most people are conditioned to never leave an initiate alive for fear that it will be Blessing Of Kings'd into a free 5/5 that can attack that turn.

Also turn 5/6 Counterspell on mage can be funny vs rush hunter, though dangerous.


*edit*
Forgot another rule: Don't overplay your hand. If you have solid board control don't be afraid to pass the turn with 8/10 mana (generally you should hero power) otherwise you can be vulnerable to AoE removal especially vs Mage/Warlock and to a lesser extent Paladin/Priest. Having the cards to play for later gives you more options, and means you're that much less likely to rely on top decking for answers.(Screw RNGsus)

The biggest cost of playing any card is the fact your expending a card, its why things like Wisp and healing spells are considered bad. They set you behind cardwise for very little benefit. On the other hand things like Twilight/Azure Drake are considered great because they draw that replacement and you still get something out of the cost. as a paladin, If you opponent spends a card deal with your HERO POWER, you're way ahead in the long run. And at worst, they counter with 2 mana and their hero power, even trade. It means they had to choose between having 2 more mana that turn to play cards with, or leaving you with a slightly stronger board presence.

[L.B.D.D]

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yeah, i just hit 10 with my pally and put in 2 blessing of kings

any ideas on how to open up turn1-3 granted i draw only one or two 1 mana cards?

idk if i should lay a 1/1 on my first turn (if i'm going first)

[L.B.D.D]

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

just fought a priest who had onyxia

yea ok

[omega_grunt666]

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As a paladin most of your strength is around 4 cost, you have Consecrate/Truesilver Champion/Blessing of Kings/Hammer of Wrath and neutrals like Yeti/Defender of Argus/Twilight Drake/Dark Irong Dwarf/Shieldmasta etc. Early game doesn't mean a lot to you in the long run.

Turn 1/2 generally aren't all that important, I'd say a good 9/10 times I'm passing and hero powering. The only time your opponent will take advantage of this is against a rush deck, and generally you will get more value out of your cards then them and they won't kill you by turn 4. At that point you start playing down really big threats to them and they either take 'good' trades for them (2/3:1 for you) or let you take the best trades for yourself.

The earliest plays I make in either of my paladin decks are Acidic Swamp Ooze if my opponent was a warrior and played a fiery war axe, or was a weaponless class (Mage/Warlock/Druid/ and usually priest unless they mindvision a truesilver). Otherwise the only low cost cards I run at all are Hand of Protection/Argent Protector (Only played for GREAT trades or to feed a Blood Knight) Argent Squire (To feed the blood knight) or a Faerie Dragon. I don't take many because unless they have a secondary use, they become dead weight past turn 3/4.


These are my current paladin decks:


A lot of the cards are harder to craft/pull, but they should give you a better idea of what kind of strategy I run on the curve. I avoid too many high/low costs that can be dead cards on the wrong turns, high costs especially with tons of priest 2xMind Control match-ups ATM. (Its being nerfed from 8 cost to 10)

Masters doesn't actually mean anything lol

*edit*
Actually realized I haven't touched my first paladin deck since I started crafting more cards, it was based partly on a deck I read about with some substitutions. There are a few things I would actually change about it now... Anyways, if you look around there are tons of "Master 3* Basic Card Only Class X" decks online that you can learn from and edit to match your play style.

[L.B.D.D]

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i get what you mean by 4cost, it avoids a lot of spells like shadow power from priest, i'm just playing around with basic deck + some other additions

day 1 baby!!!

[L.B.D.D]

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ahhh i still dont have a lot of cards.. i need to grind dust

[EzExZeRo7497]

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I still don't have my key

rip

[L.B.D.D]

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have you opted in for the beta on battle.net

you need to run the computer spec program in order to be chosen

[L.B.D.D]

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ps) pls get hearthstone asap

its 6am and i downloaded hearthstone 12 hours ago

[L.B.D.D]

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what am i doing wtih my life

[L.B.D.D]

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i need to study!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HalfStep]

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Oh this thread finally exists
Half#1687 gogogo

[HalfStep]

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I would be so mad if I was this priest lol..

8 damage per frostbolt rip in peace