attn elitists

[Roar176]

Re: attn elitists

u guyZ da suk

it's like Date Pu sais it's f*ucking subjectivemanias

nobody guided me I learned sh*ite from a few lines written at ODI wiki that nobody cared about
Then I do what I think is g00de and that's how everybody should do
Just do w/e u think is g00de for your file
When u improve at stepping is when u learn how to make a better file for yourself
It's when you're like I don't like that part ... I think it's better if I turn it like that
If u wanna improve your files then YOU are the one who can improve them
No need to take f*ucking classes for that

There's no secrets. theories are bullsh*ite even the layering/pitchrevealancy things that I find fundamental are bullsh*ite because at the end of the day NVLM_ZK gave no sh*ite about it and people plays Red Sign more than all my files combined

Packs are only projects that aims for something
Submitting a NVLM_ZKish file to Xoon 6 would be insta reject because it's like getting a rock song into a hardcore techno album
But does that mean your file f*ucking suck ?? n0pe
well maybe xdddddd

So if your sh*ite gets rejected from X6 it's because Kommisar doesn't like it (we all know other judges don't matter jajajaja)

If u wanna get a file into X6 then u gotta make a file that would fit the pack aka a hardcore techno song into a hardcore techno album
Just think the other way around if u take that thing ... staring at my sh*iteship and u give that to midare for the newest midare megapack
He'll say f*uck no cuz that's godd*amn techno song into a pop album
And is staring at my sh*iteship a bad file ?? n0pe
well maybe xdddddd

And if u wanna get a file into midare megapacks then it's the same sh*ite
u gotta make a file that fits it's the same thing everywhere

Kommisar wanna guide peepZ cuz he's just the leader of da sheepZ but it's up to u to be a sheep
midare didn't give a sh*ite about the leader of da sheepZ and he made several successful packs
cetaka/minion didn't give a sh*ite about the leader of da sheepZ and they made minitaka pack
ferrari didn't give a sh*ite about the leader of da sheepZ and he made Utmost excellence minipacks
I gave no sh*ite and I made Sirius pack ... o wait that sh*ite has 100 downloads xddddddddddddd yO get it folks ):

If you're the type of guy who's into noisecore and don't expect peepZ to like your sh*ite (cuz well there's not so many peepol into that sh*ite lOl)
Same works for simfiles. If u want to make a file and receive positive feedback then be a sheep and make files that sheep leader will like
But if what is g00de for u is whatever Kommisar likes then Yes be a godd*amn sheep and take notes
I'm not saying to do exactly or the opposite of what Kommisar wants
I say do what YOU think is g00de
And if YOU think it's bad then improve your file
Because if it's g00de for u then it's g00de godd*amnit

And elitist peeps are just guyz who like mines into their files but u and me knows that we can make g00de files without mines

They're like I don't like your file cuz it has no mines - moches numero unooooooooooooooo
But that's dAmbE as sh*ite it's like saying yO I don't like yO chiptunes cuz no gabba bass lOl own3d b*itch

If u plan to review a file then don't call it bad
explain why u dislike it and maybe the one who made will agree with u and improve his stepping style for himself
if you're like i love gabba then u can't blame the i love chiptunes guy for having different tastes if he doesn't agree with your suggestions that doesn't make him a damBe guy and if u don't like that he disagreed and u are the dAmbe guy

but do u see the thing

The thing is:
Subjectivemaniase

It's the same sh*ite EVERYWHERE

It's Easay to understand

tl;dr Do what YOU think is G00DE and don't tell people that their sh*ite is BAD
"g00de" judge don't necessarily make all the g00de packs
qqwref is just st00pide
elitism is st00pide
gundame d00de should make a bible about subjectivef*uckingmaniase
ppace
I'm off driving truckZ !!

[Ziergdsx18]

Re: attn elitists

gay

[kommisar]

Re: attn elitists

I don't know if any of you noticed, but notecharting history in terms of its development is very much parallel to that of western music

"renaissance" period - in music, this is when people start to experiment with very basic ideas such as harmony and polyphony. music was really simple, consisting of only a couple of melody lines at most. in charting this like back in the days of hyrogashi fuckin notepad sim edit fuckin fuck

"baroque" period - here, music starts to make sense. some basic rules were established that allowed it to be very structured. here, we introduce basic concepts of proper sync and layering. first few ffr charts that were on sync fall in this category

"classical" period - some of the stuff in the baroque period was too complex, so classical composers made catchy tunes that would appeal more to the public. this is when people first started to think about what patterns would be the most fun, and very simple, technical charts were made. this is the era of rebirth and hi19. though kil and a couple others were already doing super insane stuff well beyond this time, which we consider the "classics"

"romantic" period - music starts to get complex. lots of chords and fancy rhythms, some pieces highly expressive, others highly technical. here is where we get our really really hard charts that are still actually legitimate. such as glove's files, reach's files, pretty much the era of odi

"modern" period - music starts to challenge the fundamentals. people start to try lots of crazy stuff to just try it and break away from standard procedures. music is pushed to its extremes, ranging anywhere from highly dissonant sounds, neo-classical, or even silence. this is equivalent to kil's newer stuff, my newer stuff, aaand I stopped following stepmania around this time

"postmodern" period - this is where we are now. most everything has already been done. people understand what makes a good chart, the same way how people nowadays understand what good music is. everyone is making music now, combining all sorts of techniques and fusions of styles from all over the world. people started to break away from the modernist music because it sounded to snobby and elitist. now we just need to focus on making fun charts with what we know. if some people want to continue pushing the limits and boundaries on charting, sure, let them do it. but for those who don't care about critical acclaim, let them do what they want, and you'll have a world chock full of fun music to listen to-er I mean charts to play

no1 gives a shit

[Gundam-Dude]

Re: attn elitists

the irony of this thread

[ScylaX]

Re: attn elitists

thread of iron

[Choofers]

Re: attn elitists

if some people want to continue pushing the limits and boundaries on charting, sure, let them do it.

go play vortex and robotomy please

[iironiic]

Re: attn elitists

the irony of this thread

..

[FissionMailed1]

Re: attn elitists

the iironyy of this thread

[Wineandbread]

Re: attn elitists

I still think we should move towards a non-pack simfile releasing system but whatever

[FissionMailed1]

Re: attn elitists

What is stopping you from posting single files?

[FFR4EVA_00]

Re: attn elitists

What is stopping you from posting single files?

absolutely no infrastructure due to every single database being taken down

[Wineandbread]

Re: attn elitists

What is stopping you from posting single files?

Nothing is stopping people technically. It's just that a lot of people who step files tend to release with packs because packs get way more attention/downloads. Thus a lot of people with finished works don't release stuff at random times, but wait for someone to start a pack (preferably a 'notable' one).

That, or no one starts stepping UNTIL a pack is brought into fruition (see: plenty of posts by people in x6)

[FissionMailed1]

Re: attn elitists

absolutely no infrastructure due to every single database being taken down

There isn't any infrastructure for packs either other than just being hosted on a file server.

Fair enough regarding how people wait for packs before they start stepping though. Thanks for clarifying.

[FFR4EVA_00]

Re: attn elitists

There isn't any infrastructure for packs either other than just being posted on a file server.

it's a lot easier to just make a thread or site with links to every half-decent pack out there because there aren't as many of them and they aren't made as often
wanna try making a list of all single release simfiles and keeping it up to date? good fucking luck

[AlexDest]

Re: attn elitists

nice thread