What keeps you using 3.95?

[Leo137]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

Backward compatibility with SMO. I want to see the server forcefully require updating. I want to see SM development incorporate SMO development and make them one in the same.

Then once the server can only be accessed with the latest version of SM I want to see the SMOP updated with the ability to transfer simfiles to everyone in the room or at least be able to transfer .sm hashs so that exact files can be verified and official more secure ranking can be implemented.

I think this would be a good starting point for SM to make a comeback.

This. Basically there's nothing much wrong with sm5 after we argue for 2-3 days, and while the additions are nice (mostly are developer/themer side... changelogs aren't as exciting for the user as you may think), there's no major advantage of using it instead of 3.95 (or isn't any dealbreaker of keep using 3.95).

Having a better SMO version that meets the basic requirements of an typical online game nowdays (something like osu) would be a nice starting point to say, well this shit is way better than the old 3.95

[lurker]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

smo currently supports passworded rooms
players using 3.95 cannot enter passworded rooms at all

[Leo137]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

ain't /joinpass working?

http://puu.sh/hjLhT.jpg

[V-Ormix]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

3.95 (simple) 5.0 (drop a letter grade in score or 2 in some cases)

[_Juli_]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

aside from the fact that 3.95 is a unofficial random pull of sm and broken as hell, its like using windows ME in this time and day and saying it isnt broken lol


also most of this thread

also
MinaciousGrace
I know kyz kinda insulted staiain there but never mind that, like stuff do get changed in themes and I know staiain uses a older version of ultralight that's edited (atleast he was last time I checked) so it might have issues/functions which got fixed in the newer version :/

also which noteskin were you talking about that wasn't ported because I basically ported most of them

SM3.95 works fine what are you on about? The screen cut is flawless and most people that is used to sm3.95 scores better on that version.

also most of Jousway's posts:

"Change to SM5 for some reason no one really cares about."

And if the feature you want isnt in sm5:

"Make it yourself its just easy coding!"

Tbh im fucking sick of your ranting about how much better sm5 is when it really isnt. You are almost falling into shitlord status, atleast in my book.

[Jousway]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

SM3.95 works fine what are you on about? The screen cut is flawless and most people that is used to sm3.95 scores better on that version.

also most of Jousway's posts:

"Change to SM5 for some reason no one really cares about."

And if the feature you want isnt in sm5:

"Make it yourself its just easy coding!"

Tbh im fucking sick of your ranting about how much better sm5 is when it really isnt. You are almost falling into shitlord status, atleast in my book.

and you're falling avarage ignorant territory in other words you have no idea what you are talking about

now tell me how much of 3.95 functionality do you use 1%? well yeah because thats all you ignorant keyboard players care about, like srsly, the functions you use work fine the way they are, but go check up the pump gamemode, or some other stuff that isn't just dance 4key, or some shit in the editor, it has so many bugs and making it crash is easy, but hey why would this ignorant person know it better, why would a 3.95 person that only uses 1% of the program listen to me because you're better right

also sm5 is better because unlike 3.95 a ton of stuff is handeled by lua instead of xml, do you know what that is lua? want help?

http://www.lua.org/about.html

"Lua is a powerful, fast, lightweight, embeddable scripting language. "
do you know what that means? no? let me explain it to your ignorant ass, it means that unlike the limited xml we have in 3.95 where you can just set stuff, ya can actually write code, call functions and change the theme, w/e way you want, there is a unlimited possibilities you can do with sm5, but nooooo the inferior 3.95 with limited xml and broken functions which isnt an official release but was pulled from the sm source and build years ago to test smo which has already been improved with sm4 so 3.95 is even irellevant when it comes to smo because it cant enter password protected rooms but no is better, right mister ignorant

[ddrxero64]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

25% of the world uses Windows XP and no one bats an eye

someone prefers SM 3.95 and jousway loses his mind

[Kraezymann]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

I should learn how to write code and stuff. I think it'd be neat to work on it. Maybe one day... until then, I am super happy with SM5. A lot has gone into it, and I think the few who work on it are doing a great job.

[V-Ormix]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

go check up the pump gamemode

pumpmania

[tosh]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

now tell me how much of 3.95 functionality do you use 1%? well yeah because thats all you ignorant keyboard players care about, like srsly, the functions you use work fine the way they are, but go check up the pump gamemode, or some other stuff that isn't just dance 4key, or some shit in the editor, it has so many bugs and making it crash is easy, but hey why would this ignorant person know it better, why would a 3.95 person that only uses 1% of the program listen to me because you're better right

You and kyz are trying to go out of your way to convert 4k keyboard players (making this thread on FFR) to sm5 and then you're like "oh we don't care if you prefer 3.95/get better scores on 3.95. the rest of the modes were broken on 3.95 so you still should switch even though you don't play those modes."

Also, you mentioned sm4 performing better than 3.95 and any higher level 4k keyboard player (past and present) will tell you that sm4 was an absolute trainwreck in regards judge windows. You could hit one note slightly early and get a late perfect and then hit another note slightly later and get a marvelous. At times it felt completely random. Honestly, sm5 (save for a few themes) has this very same issue.

Everything related to notefield position: I don't even understand what your problem is. Notefield position changing is the easiest thing to adapt to.
After my hands actually warmed up enough for me to do 13s, my scores were within 1% of normal. From later, with the notefield moving around: http://i.imgur.com/ZbFlzjL.jpg

Okay the fact that you can't comprehend the concept of alternative skillsets/preferences is a telltale sign that you don't really care about accommodating the 3.95 community. Honestly it seems like you just want to make fun of a group of people using a version of the game that they personally prefer for whatever reason.

Changing the notefield position is easy now with 5.0.7 but it was impossible to find in the earlier builds of sm5.

[choof]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

25% of the world uses Windows XP and no one bats an eye

someone prefers SM 3.95 and jousway loses his mind

pls never post again

[SKG_Scintill]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

if my stepmania is broken/diseased/cursed, but "somehow" 4-key charts with c-mods work flawlessly, then I'm happy to use it

[dballin4]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

3.95 was the last stable build when I stopped playing. Any time I felt like stepping the mania in the past decade (holy shit what) I don't go out and download the newest release.

[Ziemniax]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

Jesus Christ the flame in this thread is beyond ridiculous..

What you should do is to tell devs, why are you using older builds, that means what does 3.95 have that SM5 lacks, so that they can upgrade SM5 to fit as many players as possible.

We want the newest version to be the best version, right? That makes sense. Thus, we want to take all the best things of 3.95, add many more, and get SM5. Instead of flaming about the best version of Stepmania, please say why it is best and what can be done to make SM5 better.

And on topic, im still pissed with that resolution thingy, fix that if it's possible.

[tuxdude143]

Re: What keeps you using 3.95?

Jesus Christ the flame in this thread is beyond ridiculous..

What you should do is to tell devs, why are you using older builds, that means what does 3.95 have that SM5 lacks, so that they can upgrade SM5 to fit as many players as possible.

We want the newest version to be the best version, right? That makes sense. Thus, we want to take all the best things of 3.95, add many more, and get SM5. Instead of flaming about the best version of Stepmania, please say why it is best and what can be done to make SM5 better.

And on topic, im still pissed with that resolution thingy, fix that if it's possible.

I agree with everything here except the resolution thing.

Edit: If you're refering to the alt-tab thing then I'll pass that onto kyzen, try to replicate it and hopefully try to fix it

I mean, I wanna be serious here, what reason would you have to play in 717x616 or whatever you use. What's the point? What does it have that playing in something like 640x480 doesn't? Please enlighten me