New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

**MarioNintendo** · 05-23-2012, 05:04 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

I can only think of one for #20:

INSANODESTRUCTOR

**gold stinger** · 05-23-2012, 05:28 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

How about these?

01- Beginner
02- Easy
03- Mediocre
04- Fair
05- Adequate
06- Medium
07- Tricky
08-Hard
09- Difficult
10- Intense
---
11- Challenging
12- Advanced
13- Extreme
14- Painful
15-Vicious
16- For Masters Only
17- For Gurus Only
18-Outrageous
19- Ridiculous
20- Ludicrous

Exclusively for Songs Like vROFL- Impossible
Unless, you plan putting vROFL under Ludicrous.

I took out all the words that contained "Very" in them, and replaced them with their own unique difficulty, that also represents closely to their own separate difficulty level based on the other difficulties around it. Sorry for completely re-doing it, looks better without "Very" all the time in my opinion.

- The Demanding difficulties didn't really sink in with me, it just looked like filler, so I swapped them out with something that would be a little more descriptive of what to find in those certain songs.

- I don't think we need to make another "For ______ Only" Bracket because It's jam-packed as it is trying to put in Stepman Only right now. Also, FEO doesn't sound all that great when you say it.

- The only thing I haven't changed is the For Masters Only and For Gurus Only titles for token and abbreviation purposes. Considering that you planned on removing the FSO abbreviation, and For Stepmen Only, I changed it to something a little more menacing.

- I made a difficulty for vROFL itself because it is a dump file, and has no proper place among other legit FFR files. Also, if any other dump files come into the game, this would be a valuable place to put them, along with event files that were meant to only be put into the game for a couple of days, making it easier for players to find said event files, and dump files.

-EDIT- Forgot to point out that I left challenging where it was as a reminder about when you are transitioning between difficulties 1-10, and 11-20.

**popsicle_3000** · 05-23-2012, 05:30 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

A few comments:
-I dont like Oni as a term. most people would have no idea what that means (including me)...
-I've always been puzzled by having easiest AND beginner as different difficulties. to me they mean the same thing... thanks Middie for your suggestion.
-I like for legends only. makes FLO. not the greatest acronym, but better than FSO looks anyways.
-bahamuts suggestion "Impossible" i find fitting. nothing can be harder than the impossible ;) I know... bit sappy
-I'm against flashy lingo. I recon difficulty names is something that should be pretty low key.
-I guess i'm partial to "Very" since they've been in the game already...

I've combined my favorites. I'm not a huge fan of my 9 & 10 suggestion, but i'm not entirely sure what else would be good...

01- Beginner
02- Very Easy
03- Easy
04- Light
05- Moderate
06- Standard
07- Tricky
08-Very Tricky
09- Heavy?
10- Very Heavy?
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- For Experts only
16- For Masters only
17- For Gurus only
18-For Legends only
19- Ridiculous
20- Impossible

**icontrolyourworld** · 05-23-2012, 05:32 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

gold stingers list rules xD

**nois-or-e** · 05-23-2012, 05:33 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Finnnnnnnnnnne.

I fixed my post.

Thanks mate ;D

Also guys, try to remember that we are aiming for unique acronyms across the board. Undoubtedly the biggest pain in thinking up new titles. With a need for more hard titles I changed D/VD from difficult to demanding as it fit better in the harder area of the difficulty scale. But as with all of these suggested titles, are up for votes to change ;D

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Edit:

Originally posted by gold stinger

Exclusively for Songs Like vROFL- Impossible
Unless, you plan putting vROFL under Ludicrous.

The only song in the 20 difficulty range is vRofl, hence it was put in the OP as ???, much as it appears in the engine atm as a 14~

That being said, nice usage of terms Stinger, my only issue with some of the titles is repetitive acronyms which would make referencing files a little tricky over time. (Though I am confident people would be able to adjust)

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Double Edit: I am aware that in saying we are after unique acronyms that I have used Easiest and Easy in theOP list, lol

**popsicle_3000** · 05-23-2012, 05:39 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

unique? :( i like the very difficult and challenging how they are. oh well!

**Frank Munoz** · 05-23-2012, 05:48 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Basic
06- Mediocre
07- Average
08- Intermediate
09- Tricky
10- Very Tricky
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Adept
16- For Masters Only
17- For Gurus Only
18- Oni/Brutal
19- What The FFR[WTFFR]
20- ???

lolf, how come everyone keeps trying to name 20 when it states that it's not gonna change? fss. Anyways,
I'm actually not sure where to place "Adept". it kinda seems like it goes anywhere from 11-15. And the color scheme makes it look all weird.

Also, the word "Challenging" looks funny now. just .. look at it.

ps.thistookmelikeanhourtomake

**gold stinger** · 05-23-2012, 05:57 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

Originally posted by nois-or-e

nice usage of terms Stinger, my only issue with some of the titles is repetitive acronyms which would make referencing files a little tricky over time. (Though I am confident people would be able to adjust)

Take it as you will, I figured that most of the opinions given would all be used together equally for creating the new system. Hopefully, some of my acronyms will be taken into consideration when creating the final list of difficulties for the new difficulty system. None of the acronyms I've given have a "Very" at the beginning, so it's easy enough to slap one on if it's needed.

People will need to adjust to the new system anyways since it's going from a 1-13 scale to a 1-19 scale. (Excluding vROFL,) I'm certain that people will find it a bit difficult to navigate the songs at first, thinking that an 11-difficulty is an FMO when it actually is a high-end Challenging song, which in fact brings up a question to ask.

Have you given any thought on what difficulty the Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] token will be now in light of this new difficulty system? Will it still be under the For Masters Only difficulty and up (16+ difficulty) or will you be changing it based on the actual difficulty of the songs in each bracket and planned on moving it up or down from FMO? (Had to ask, getting close to the FMO AAA.)

**SKG_Scintill** · 05-23-2012, 06:36 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

20 - Silly

or

20 - Rambunctious

**popsicle_3000** · 05-23-2012, 06:38 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

Originally posted by Frank Munoz

lolf, how come everyone keeps trying to name 20 when it states that it's not gonna change? fss.

in light of that:
01- Beginner
02- Very Easy
03- Easy
04- Light
05- Moderate
06- Standard
07- Tricky
08-Very Tricky
09- Heavy?
10- Very Heavy?
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- For Experts only
16- For Masters only
17- For Gurus only
18-For Legends only
19- Impossible
20- ???

**mrpreggers** · 05-23-2012, 06:43 AM

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I like leaving level 20 as ??? Like it's so hard you can't think of anything to call it

**dore** · 05-23-2012, 07:00 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

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01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Light
06- Moderate
07- Standard
08- Tricky
09- Very Tricky
10- Heavy
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Intense
16- For Experts only
17- For Masters only
18-For Gurus nly
19- Ridiculous
20- Painful

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**Silvuh** · 05-23-2012, 07:35 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

So this is what I've finally come up with after over four hours of deliberation.

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01- Easiest
02- Novice
03- Basic/Simple
04- Fair
05- Lenient
06- Moderate
07- Tricky
08- Very Tricky
09- Difficult
10- Very Difficult
---
11- Challenging
12- Very Challenging
13- Intense
14- Very Intense
15- Master
16- Guru
17- Relentless
18- Cruel
19- Berserk
20- __

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May as well keep "Easiest" as the first difficulty ... Used "Novice" instead of "Beginner" to have fewer Bs. I do think "Basic" sounds better than "Simple", but "Simple" would be the only S. Even though "Easiest" sounds out of place, I couldn't think of another good word to fit in here. "Beginner" and "Novice" or "Simple" and "Basic" would have to be ranked arbitrarily to use both.

I took gold stinger's suggestion of "Fair" to use instead of "Easy". But adjectives like "Adequate" and "Mediocre" describe a player's ability to play a file (or the quality of the file), not the difficulty itself.

I think "Lenient" to "Moderate" to "Tricky" is a nice gradient. Don't want to have too many words with a very strong "Easy" connotation which might discourage new players if they're stuck on "Easy" difficulties for too long.
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I kept "Difficult" and "Challenging" around the same areas they are now. I like the balance of having two sets of "X" and "Very X" on each side of the median. The good thing about "Very" is that it makes the steps much more clear. I don't think having, say, "advanced" be two steps above "intense" is as intuitive.

"Master" and "Guru" are just kind of there. I didn't want another "X" and "Very X" set, but couldn't think of anything else. Because "Novice" is at the top, I left just the singular nouns "Master" and "Guru" there for consistency.

And then at the bottom are the crazy words. For me, files of that difficulty are just ... well, crazy. My fingers can't keep up. That stuff is cruel to my fingers, which go berserk on the keyboard. I believe adjectives like these would be appropriate.

Finally, I'd say leaving difficulty 20 blank would be better than sticking question marks in there.

Another note:
"Light", "Standard", "Heavy", and "Oni" should be avoided because they're used as song title tags that cover ranges of difficulties in relation to other files of only that music, not every file in the game.

Same reason why I'm not using "Easy" or "Hard". Those terms are even stretchier. Look at the ranges of difficulties that were allowed in the Easy and Hard Batches.

**nois-or-e** · 05-23-2012, 07:50 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

Originally posted by gold stinger

Have you given any thought on what difficulty the Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] token will be now in light of this new difficulty system? Will it still be under the For Masters Only difficulty and up (16+ difficulty) or will you be changing it based on the actual difficulty of the songs in each bracket and planned on moving it up or down from FMO? (Had to ask, getting close to the FMO AAA.)

I am glad someone asked about this, with the heavy/oni 'get' files needing a much overdue overhaul (which I was going to put forward just before I took on co-ordinating this project), I figured that once this system is finally in place, we'll be able to set each one to a range of difficulties in the 1-99 rankings.
(ex. Difficulty 70-75 AAA will award [oni])

Things like this of course will be taken into consideration once it is all finalised. I know for one there is discussions happening about the way those two particular tokens are coded. So all I can say is ~stay tuned~ and as soon as I know what direction we are taking regarding those token 'gets', you guys will be well informed via the front page ;D

**EzExZeRo7497** · 05-23-2012, 08:05 AM

Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

Post from Dossballs

Originally posted by DossarLX ODI

Can you go into that difficulty thread and post this
01- Easiest
02- Novice
03- Basic
04- Easy
05- Fair
06- Light
07- Moderate
08- Tricky
09- Very Tricky
10- Heavy
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11- Challenging
12- Very Challenging
13- Demanding
14- Very Demanding
15- For Experts Only
16- For Masters Only
17- For Gurus Only
18- For Superiors Only
19- For Champions Only
20- Unreasonable (or For Deities Only or For Lunatics Only etc)

Other suggestions for "For ___ Only" titles could be For Pros Only, For Wizards Only, For Bosses Only (lol), For Legends Only, For Elites Only, and For Aces Only.

New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

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