"Veteran" Status Discussion

[yo man im awesome]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I think there should be different types of Veterans, like different categories.

a) Game Veteran: Those who've played the game and achieved X amount of points.

b) Forum Veteran: Someone who's contributed much to the forums, and pretty much knows how things go around there. (maybe x amount of posts, but that just leads to post whoring. Maybe add +1'ing a post, and then require getting X amount of +1's?)

c) Site Veteran: Those old people who've been here a long time.

d) Combo Veteran: People who've achieved more than one Veteran title (can opt. to have both showing, or just combo vet)

e) Elite FFR Supporter: People who've either achieved every single Veteran title, are beyond extremely helpful, or some other thing you guys come up with.

I don't want to lose this post, since basically what evnoir and others are saying kind of goes with this.

[qqwref]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I don't think being Veteran should require a long amount of time (since then it becomes impractical for any new player to get, no matter how dedicated or skilled they are about the game), or a high level of gameplay skill (since then some people will never be able to get the requirement, because they don't have that level of physical speed due to various factors).

Also, we shouldn't be thinking about veteran status as some kind of exclusive privilege that only a handful of people should be getting. It should be a global thing available to anyone who's put a lot of time and effort into this game and/or this community. Like the old subscriber idea, the concept isn't to have an elitist club, but rather to mark who's serious about the game and who's just a casual player. So things like 75% TP, 5k posts, etc. ask a lot more than we should be asking.

[Netjet!]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

Also, we shouldn't be thinking about veteran status as some kind of exclusive privilege that only a handful of people should be getting. It should be a global thing available to anyone who's put a lot of time and effort into this game and/or this community. Like the old subscriber idea, the concept isn't to have an elitist club, but rather to mark who's serious about the game and who's just a casual player. So things like 75% TP, 5k posts, etc. ask a lot more than we should be asking.

I agree with this. We don't have to have insanely high requirements for it, because then it will be exclusive to literally the top ~50 people of FFR, and that isn't fair.

[rushyrulz]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

We can add gaming skill factors for veteran status, but parameters like AAAs/FCs/TP aren't very useful as long as new songs are added to the game. Needless to say, averank isn't available either.

Possible method I can think of..
- Pick like 10-20 req songs from ingame ones (preferably from older songs)
- Set veteran reqs on these songs (can set req on every songs like skill tokens, or make a point system like TP system)
- If an user meets the vereran req, veteran status will be given.

Problem with this is that some random SM god could come out of nowhere and get veteran within a day of being a member on FFR.

[raskanally]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

75% TP seems steep.
I would like to consider myself a vet, but i only have 7.2bil GT :/
Ive only gotten active on the forums recently, but what about just a required AAA amount.
Thats an Semi-Accurate number to gauge someones skill.
I would say around 300 is not an unreachable number.
I have 266 and have not put tons of time into it, but for a "casual" player to get more then 300 seems high.
And as for the "Forum Vet." status. I dont know if there is a "non-whoreable" way to make a req. for obtaining this title.
We could make a system for telling the admins when someone goes above the norm to help and they would get lets say 1 point for it. It would require picture proof, and after so many "points" you could be up for vote to obtain the status. The current admins in place seem level headed enough to make accurate decisions. This may seem as over thinking "Just a title" but thats the only way i can think of so people wont abuse the forums to obtain it.
And 10bil GT seems like a good number for the game vet. status as well.
What about multiple leveled titles.
Game Vet: Reached X amount of points
Game Elite: Reached X amount of points + X amount of AAA/FC's
Game Guru: Reached X amount of points + X amount of AAA/FC's + X% of TP
This may also be over thinking it for just a "Game Title" but it would help in the process of giving out bonus's. We could have each rank have bonus's that would help in the process of the skill of the player (what those bonus's would be. I have no idea).

This is an incomplete thought.
Sorry if this post is just nonsence.

[Emithith]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

It feels like the people who actually whine about the req don't play the game nearly as much as people who aren't whining.

Just to clear this up:
The only BENEFITS for the forums seems to be the Veteran Board, a Blue Name, and a User Title. The rest are just Game Features like Average Rank Leader stat board, beta level stats, etc.

Plus, the time you guys are taking to whine about a game can be put into real life tasks, or playing the game for yourselves to make yourself actually go into the direction of achieving veteran status.

It's sad tbh.

edit: lol nois

[nois-or-e]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I must be one of few that is seeing no problem with the current requirements.

Imo, anyone who has more than 3 year member length, should have easily been able to attain 3 billion points in their time here. I see the 3year/3bill as a fairly well-rounded system. People who've been here for 7 years that haven't managed to get 3 billion points (which isn't a,lot when you think about it), aren't so much veterans of the game as they are veterans of 'clicking the sign-up button and waiting'.

//2cents

[justin_ator]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

Make everyone a Vet and give User status to those that complain anymore.

+1

[Emithith]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

lmfao!
That would solve all problems!

edit: sigged.

[justin_ator]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

It just came to me.

Like the mail.

[icontrolyourworld]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

Problem with this is that some random SM god could come out of nowhere and get veteran within a day of being a member on FFR.

Not to argue but wouldn't it be a good thing to have more players playing ffr even if they are from sm and even if they are only doing it for vet status?

[-zeroSKILL-]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

My only complaint about current requirements is the ~time~. But I'm not one of the people who has 300mil points after 7 years... I had about 28bil before I even hit 3 years. I was counting down the days for 3 months before I got Vet, and eventually bugged Velocity so much about it I was given Vet a day early, oops (my profile said I was 3 years old dammit, I wanted Vet xD),

Plus... I've also been a member of FFR for far longer than this profile is old.
See:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/profile/litedancer (5.65 years old as of this post, gay name, and AvMiss was still around when I made that account, so I didn't play much and I ditched the account when I came back after avmiss was fixed)

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...e/Brian%20iPwn (3.51 years old as of this post. I *ACCIDENTALLY STARTED* cheating, but continued to abuse that method of cheating [was on a horrible computer that was falling apart practically and if I played FFR long enough, or left the computer on too long without rebooting, FFR would lag... It was a smooth lag that resulted in arrow slow down, oops] account was blacklisted, and I moved on to -zeroSKILL-. I like my current username, and have been 100% legit on this account)

The only thing I see wrong with a concrete period of time a person must be a member is that it has no meaning whatsoever in how much experience they have. And though some people argue being a Veteran *is* the amount of time you "served" or whatever else... that's bullshit. You can't measure how long someone has "served" as an FFR player by how long ago they made their account. They are not forced to log in every day, or even check back on the site ever again after making their account.

Veteran status imo should be limited strictly to GTS. GTS does show how long you've sat in front of your computer dedicated to this website. Gaining GTS is not an idle process like racking up member length is.

I suggest a requirement of maybe 3 months member, and something like 5-10bil GTS for FFR Veteran.

This is a gaming website. If you came here to become a Flash Flash Revolution Veteran and want to whine about how you aren't one because you post a lot and have been a member for 20 years...

Go play some FFR and rack up GTS to gain Veteran status. If the Forum people want Vet status too, I say hand out a title like "FFR Community Veteran" to the postwhores who have 5k+ posts or something. You either care about a title like that or you don't. I really doubt someone would try and postwhore their way to 5k posts just for a title. And if they did, I'd have to say bravo, they earned it, as long as they weren't flaming, trolling, double posting (or worse), or posting stupid one liners at any post they got a chance to like a lot of FFya members do/did.

Well, there's my 2 cents. Keep the change~

[ninjaKIWI]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

or posting stupid one liners at any post they got a chance to like a lot of FFya members do/did.

jeeze what is up with all of the hate towards FFYa around here? What, are you basing your entire knowledge of FFYa off of Lito or something?

[rushyrulz]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

Not to argue but wouldn't it be a good thing to have more players playing ffr even if they are from sm and even if they are only doing it for vet status?

Just saying rhythm game veteran # FFR veteran. A 1 day old member shouldn't be allowed a veteran title.

[hi19hi19]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

Any system where you can make an account and get veteran within a few hours is more broken than a system where it takes 3 years to get it.



That is all.