"Veteran" Status Discussion

[hi19hi19]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

Can you imagine having to play any other game for 3 years to be considered a vet? Can you imagine a war hero who fought on the front lines in 50 major battles, has 5000 kills under his belt, a Medal of Honor, Purple Heart, Victoria Cross, Order of Badassmother****ers, etc... being told he's not actually a veteran because, oops, it took him less than three years to do all that? That's one hell of a C-c-c-c-c-BULLSHIT.

On the other hand, imagine a regular old soldier who fought on the front lines for 3 different wars and participated in the bloodiest battles over 14 years. Despite never having won any medals or gotten many kills himself he has still seen it all and then some just from doing his job for years... then he's told he isn't a veteran because he never did anything special?

Veteran implies experience, and whether you like it or not experience comes with time.

I do like dividing it into community veteran (primarily determined by time) and game veteran (primarily determined by gameplays and/or total score). Seems to highlight the important distinction between the various parts of being a "veteran"

[Mike Weedmark]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I think both of those soldiers would deserve to be called a vet, but I wouldn't say someone who fought in 3 wars never did anything special. I'd compare a forum lurker (in terms of veteran status) to someone who worked in a plane factory back home. Important? Yes. Related to the war? Yes. Worthy of the title veteran? Not really.

[SocoNhydro420]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I think veteran should be based on how long you have been with the site, and create a new status that's based on beastly ffr skills.

[Mike Weedmark]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I think veteran should be based on how long you have been with the site, and create a new status that's based on beastly ffr skills.

I would be cool with this, but change "beastly" to just "p.good." I want in on it too D:

[00Razor00]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I think there should be different types of Veterans, like different categories.

a) Game Veteran: Those who've played the game and achieved X amount of points.

b) Forum Veteran: Someone who's contributed much to the forums, and pretty much knows how things go around there. (maybe x amount of posts, but that just leads to post whoring. Maybe add +1'ing a post, and then require getting X amount of +1's?)

c) Site Veteran: Those old people who've been here a long time.

d) Combo Veteran: People who've achieved more than one Veteran title (can opt. to have both showing, or just combo vet)

e) Elite FFR Supporter: People who've either achieved every single Veteran title, are beyond extremely helpful, or some other thing you guys come up with.

These all sounds like great ideas. +1.

[lumphoboextreme]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I like the different types of veterans idea but if you guys decide to stick with a single veteran I think it should be just straight up 10 billion grand total. Something needs to change for sure though cause I'm figuring we have something like 1,500 veterans right now? Probably more. If someone puts a sufficient amount of time into FFR 10 billion points really isn't hard to get. Could make it like 10 billion points or 5,000 posts. I just feel like we throw around the term "veteran" too loosely.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

lumphobo - Google the term veteran.

It really should only matter about how long you've been here. That is what determines a veteran. Yeah, maybe GT should count just so we know you understand the game but 10 Billion? **** that, that's just a game-whore. And 5,000 posts? Re-think that.

[jimerax]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

We can add gaming skill factors for veteran status, but parameters like AAAs/FCs/TP aren't very useful as long as new songs are added to the game. Needless to say, averank isn't available either.

Possible method I can think of..
- Pick like 10-20 req songs from ingame ones (preferably from older songs)
- Set veteran reqs on these songs (can set req on every songs like skill tokens, or make a point system like TP system)
- If an user meets the vereran req, veteran status will be given.

[icontrolyourworld]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I think since tier points are useless right now, make it so you have to have 75% (maybe 80 or 85 percent) tier points, and 5bil gts (getting rid of 3 years, maybe make it 1 year like everyone else says sounds more reasonable)

[lumphoboextreme]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

lumphobo - Google the term veteran.

It really should only matter about how long you've been here. That is what determines a veteran. Yeah, maybe GT should count just so we know you understand the game but 10 Billion? **** that, that's just a game-whore. And 5,000 posts? Re-think that.

The post count thing was just an alternative idea for someone who is around and known in the community well but doesn't play the game much. 10 billion might sound harsh but veteran should be a little more prestigious imo. We have almost as many veterans as we have active users.

[Mike Weedmark]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

lumphobo - Google the term veteran.

It really should only matter about how long you've been here. That is what determines a veteran. Yeah, maybe GT should count just so we know you understand the game but 10 Billion? **** that, that's just a game-whore. And 5,000 posts? Re-think that.

Service, experience, fought. A person who worked in a plane factory is not a war veteran. A person who has tickets to an MLB game is not a professional baseball player. A kid who watches Naruto is not a ninja. A person who lurks forums on a site for a game they don't play is not a veteran of that game, and shouldn't recieve game-related perks before people who are.

10 billion points is extremely easy to get. I have almost 13bn, and I got almost every single one of those in less than the time FFR's been back up, without a whole lot of sustained effort, just by AAAing as much as I can and whoring FMOs and FGOs to try to get better at them. But I don't think 10bn alone is a good requirement, because looking at your stats, I'd call you a veteran even with just your 5.

How easy or hard vet SHOULD be to get, I don't know, but I do know that it should be related to skill and experience and not idle time, and that bad players who happened to find the site three years before good players don't deserve it more.

Edit: If there's a 5000 post requirement for something, it should be a different title than vet. I'm not against forum milestone titles, but make the game about the game, and don't confuse the forums for it. I have 13bn points and 38 posts (although I do frequent chat). I know everyone wants to feel important here, but FFR is primarily a game, and any title that rewards you with perks for that game should come from playing it.

We can add gaming skill factors for veteran status, but parameters like AAAs/FCs/TP aren't very useful as long as new songs are added to the game. Needless to say, averank isn't available either.

Possible method I can think of..
- Pick like 10-20 req songs from ingame ones (preferably from older songs)
- Set veteran reqs on these songs (can set req on every songs like skill tokens, or make a point system like TP system)
- If an user meets the vereran req, veteran status will be given.

I like this. As long as "old songs" doesn't mean "synth songs" :P

[rayword45]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

I've never really been active in the forums, but I've been playing the game since Feb 2007. I took 2-3 long hiatuses so, so I have less then 2bil points as of now.

[Kraezymann]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

People want a requirement of 10bil+ points or 5k+ posts to become a vet



mfw I've been here longer than most and only have 300mil and under 400 posts

[Evnoir]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

2 days left until I get vet
or
2 days, 1.2bill GTS, and 4614 forum posts left until I get vet.

What does the veteran status get you anyways?
If it gives you game-related perks, make it an in-game requirement.
If it gives you forum-related perks, make it a forum post requirement.

The way I think it, people that served as soldiers and people that served as medics are both considered veterans but in different fields.

[Zageron]

Re: "Veteran" Status Discussion

We are arguing about the veteran status in general. The veteran status you get will very likely have a lot more in it.