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  • foxfire667
    The FFRchiver
    FFR Music Producer
    • Jun 2009
    • 2169

    #46
    Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

    Originally posted by TheSaxRunner05
    Well, the raw scoring system is already planned for the new TP system which has been coompleted for months, but never worked into the site. Implementing the new TP system should be priority #1. It also offers the opportunity for newer players to earn TP sooner in their FFR experience, which may be motivation to stick to it.

    We want raw TP! When do we want it? This year!
    Oh yeah, as if average ranks weren't silly enough when it comes to combo scoring. A point system, specifically designed to show you how skilled you are as a player on a wide variety of harder songs, is based on combo scoring.

    Can't wait to see the new TP's implemented, especially if they are going to be raw score (although FFR would have to save your best raw score for this to even be feasible). I guess that raw score recording is going to be worked into the engine anyway, might as well go all the way with it and make leader boards raw scoring as well!
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    • Dynam0
      The Dominator
      • Sep 2005
      • 8987

      #47
      Re: Combo Scoring Discussion



      Raw scoring plz

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      • Izzy
        Snek
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jan 2003
        • 9195

        #48
        Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

        bump

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        • popsicle_3000
          Legendary Noob
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2005
          • 4641

          #49
          Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

          Id be interested to get some admin input into the status of ffr scoring.
          is there debates going on within admin? or have they decided on way or another? What kind of hurdles are there to implement raw scoring, etc...
          Anything you can tell us?

          Originally posted by One Winged Angel
          39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
          Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
          one way to stream them all
          Originally posted by Xiz
          Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

          But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
          Originally posted by thesunfan
          replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
          Originally posted by reuben_tate
          Title: Popsicle Three

          Thousand the farthest
          He's gone in an official
          Whoop hip hip hooray!
          Originally posted by U.N. Owen
          kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

          @popsicle_3000:
          Danger incoming
          The popsicles are melting
          Three thousand of them
          Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
          you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

          dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
          friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
          dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
          friend: hey bro can i tell you something
          dynam0 yeah man whats up?
          friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
          dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
          friend: thanks man
          dynam0: no problem man
          Originally posted by One Winged Angel
          pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
          Originally posted by Xiz
          Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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          • bmah
            shots FIRED
            Profile Moderator
            FFR Simfile Author
            Global Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 8448

            #50
            Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

            I've already mentioned this but a key problem in changing score recording to raw score-based has to do with the limited memory the server has available (~80 GB only iirc). I presume recording all scores in this new way will eat up a lot of memory. I don't think most staff members are against the idea of raw scoring, but it's also not my place to tell Synth to upgrade the server size.
            Last edited by bmah; 09-17-2012, 09:41 AM.

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            • Izzy
              Snek
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 9195

              #51
              Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

              Why such a stupidly small harddrive? I'll mail you a terabyte.

              Edit: Actually I have 2 identical 250gb drives that I could give away. Assuming you would want some kind of raid setup.

              Start up some kind of fundraising and I'll definitely donate if it helps upgrade the server in order to make some progress towards this.
              Last edited by Izzy; 09-17-2012, 09:27 AM.

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              • TheSaxRunner05
                The Doctor
                • Apr 2006
                • 6144

                #52
                Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                Has synth even logged in during the last year? (@bmah). Last time I looked at his page, he'd been away for more than a year.


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                • kmay
                  Don't forget me
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6511

                  #53
                  Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                  bmah? why would it take up more than saving combo scores? i dont understand.... delete the combo scores and save raw

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                  • bmah
                    shots FIRED
                    Profile Moderator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    Global Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 8448

                    #54
                    Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                    Originally posted by TheSaxRunner05
                    Has synth even logged in during the last year? (@bmah). Last time I looked at his page, he'd been away for more than a year.
                    Synth is sporadically on Skype and occasionally deals with server stuff, but he's usually a rare sight.

                    Originally posted by kmay
                    bmah? why would it take up more than saving combo scores? i dont understand.... delete the combo scores and save raw
                    That is a question you'd have to ask Velo or someone who would know the mechanics of the site. I wouldn't know how easy it is (or even if it is preferable) to delete all current scores that are recorded through the current scoring system.

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                    • Dynam0
                      The Dominator
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 8987

                      #55
                      Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                      Everyone flood Velo's inbox, let's get shit done

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                      • popsicle_3000
                        Legendary Noob
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4641

                        #56
                        Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                        Originally posted by bmah
                        I've already mentioned this but a key problem in changing score recording to raw score-based has to do with the limited memory the server has available (~80 GB only iirc). I presume recording all scores in this new way will eat up a lot of memory. I don't think most staff members are against the idea of raw scoring, but it's also not my place to tell Synth to upgrade the server size.
                        Ah ok, this is interesting.
                        by memory, you mean hdd space?

                        Any ideas how much memory we'd be needing to make the switch? I'm sure people (and some have already mentioned this) would have stuff they'd be able to send off to synth or ?sprite (i forget who actually has the server) if physical hardware is limiting this change.

                        Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                        39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                        Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                        one way to stream them all
                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                        But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                        Originally posted by thesunfan
                        replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                        Originally posted by reuben_tate
                        Title: Popsicle Three

                        Thousand the farthest
                        He's gone in an official
                        Whoop hip hip hooray!
                        Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                        kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                        @popsicle_3000:
                        Danger incoming
                        The popsicles are melting
                        Three thousand of them
                        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                        you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                        dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                        friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                        dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                        friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                        dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                        friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                        dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                        friend: thanks man
                        dynam0: no problem man
                        Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                        pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                        • bmah
                          shots FIRED
                          Profile Moderator
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          Global Moderator
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 8448

                          #57
                          Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                          Yes, the HDD has a capacity of about 80 GB. How much memory is required for the switch? Once again, I'll reiterate that I don't know the technical details that characterize this site.

                          So I think it's clear what people want. The next step would be to convince the higher-ups to get the appropriate HDD space necessary to make the change. I've also never mentioned the amount of work required to make the change either...that I don't know, but you have to take that into consideration as well with a group of staff that are entirely volunteers.

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                          • popsicle_3000
                            Legendary Noob
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 4641

                            #58
                            Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                            thx for the info

                            Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                            39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                            Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                            one way to stream them all
                            Originally posted by Xiz
                            Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                            But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                            Originally posted by thesunfan
                            replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                            Originally posted by reuben_tate
                            Title: Popsicle Three

                            Thousand the farthest
                            He's gone in an official
                            Whoop hip hip hooray!
                            Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                            kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                            @popsicle_3000:
                            Danger incoming
                            The popsicles are melting
                            Three thousand of them
                            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                            you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                            dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                            friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                            dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                            friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                            dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                            friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                            dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                            friend: thanks man
                            dynam0: no problem man
                            Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                            pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                            Originally posted by Xiz
                            Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                            • Izzy
                              Snek
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 9195

                              #59
                              Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                              bump

                              This is too big of an issue to just let fade away

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                              • foxfire667
                                The FFRchiver
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 2169

                                #60
                                Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                                Originally posted by Izzy
                                This is too big of an issue to just let fade away
                                I would really like some acknowledgement that raw scoring will be replaced with combo scoring in the future. Obviously this could be a much more complex process than I imagine, but I'm not asking for this to be done immediately. Just some sort of loose mention that it will be worked on and implemented when there is ample time to do so.
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