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  • popsicle_3000
    Legendary Noob
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2005
    • 4641

    #1

    Combo Scoring Discussion

    So instead of bogging down the suggestions thread, how about you vote here, and we can have the major discussion I think that the site needs about Raw vs Combo scoring.

    For those who are unaware, the discussion is whether FFR level ranks should stay based on the combo score (where a FC is worth the most), or should change to using Raw score (where misses count -10, perfects 50, etc...)
    82
    Combo Scoring
    0%
    11
    Raw Scoring
    0%
    62
    I don't care
    0%
    9

    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
    39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
    one way to stream them all
    Originally posted by Xiz
    Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

    But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
    Originally posted by thesunfan
    replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
    Originally posted by reuben_tate
    Title: Popsicle Three

    Thousand the farthest
    He's gone in an official
    Whoop hip hip hooray!
    Originally posted by U.N. Owen
    kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

    @popsicle_3000:
    Danger incoming
    The popsicles are melting
    Three thousand of them
    Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
    you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

    dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
    friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
    dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
    friend: hey bro can i tell you something
    dynam0 yeah man whats up?
    friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
    dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
    friend: thanks man
    dynam0: no problem man
    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
    pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
    Originally posted by Xiz
    Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.
  • noname219
    FFR Wiki Admin
    • May 2007
    • 1694

    #2
    Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

    You've been ninja'd by 8 minutes. o_O
    I voted raw score for rankings.
    Thinking about it, combo scoring should be used for Grandtotal only.

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    • Ohaider
      FFR Veteran
      • Jun 2012
      • 2893

      #3
      Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

      majority of people will say raw scoring
      doubt it will ever be raw scoring
      just somethin we gotta live with haha

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      • foxfire667
        The FFRchiver
        FFR Music Producer
        • Jun 2009
        • 2169

        #4
        Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

        Originally posted by Ohaider
        majority of people will say raw scoring
        doubt it will ever be raw scoring
        just somethin we gotta live with haha
        If the general consensus is that people favor raw scoring over combo scoring, it is very possible the admins will consider changing it.

        Never really know until everyone voices their opinion on the matter.
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        • ddrkid007
          FFR Veteran
          • Jul 2007
          • 407

          #5
          Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

          Raw scoring definetly.
          I'm sick of getting one miss runs with an awesome PA and resulting in a terrible rank/score overall. I really don't like change but this is something I'd like to have changed. Mashing an FC shouldn't get you top 10 on Jamais Vu. Although, I did the same thing. I've been trying to fix that score with a good PA but I keep getting one miss runs. Raw scoring all the way.
          Originally posted by smartdude1212
          The asshole in me wants to tell your girlfriend to stop being a pussy little bitch about it.

          The concerned forum poster in me wants to tell your girlfriend nearly the same thing.

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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #6
            Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

            The hard part is purging the raw scoring tables of hacked scores. I imagine a script can weed out a lot of them, but it would require some work. I do feel like it should be raw scoring too, as do almost all of the active FFR members.

            Give it time, I suppose.

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            • iironiic
              D6 FFR Legacy Player
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2009
              • 4342

              #7
              Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

              If raw scoring ever does get implemented, I'm demanding my replays to replace my current scores :3

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              • 00Razor00
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2006
                • 3530

                #8
                Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                -insert post about how combo scoring makes FFR unique and therefore by getting rid of it, it loses said uniqueness-


                Originally posted by t-rogdor
                hey buddy are you looking for a good song to step because if so i really recommend you step In Front Of A Bus

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                • Xx{Midnight}xX
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8548

                  #9
                  Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                  Originally posted by foxfire667
                  If the general consensus is that people favor raw scoring over combo scoring, it is very possible the admins will consider changing it.

                  Never really know until everyone voices their opinion on the matter.
                  We've been trying to get rid of shitty legacy charts for a long time

                  everyone wants them gone from at minimal the public ranks

                  but it has yet to ever happen

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                  • popsicle_3000
                    Legendary Noob
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 4641

                    #10
                    Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                    everyone wants them gone from at minimal the public ranks
                    not true

                    edit: however, not the point of this discussion
                    Last edited by popsicle_3000; 09-13-2012, 08:56 PM.

                    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                    39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                    one way to stream them all
                    Originally posted by Xiz
                    Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                    But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                    Originally posted by thesunfan
                    replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                    Originally posted by reuben_tate
                    Title: Popsicle Three

                    Thousand the farthest
                    He's gone in an official
                    Whoop hip hip hooray!
                    Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                    kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                    @popsicle_3000:
                    Danger incoming
                    The popsicles are melting
                    Three thousand of them
                    Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                    you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                    dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                    friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                    dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                    friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                    dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                    friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                    dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                    friend: thanks man
                    dynam0: no problem man
                    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                    pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                    Originally posted by Xiz
                    Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                    • SK8R43
                      D7 Elite Keymasher
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4683

                      #11
                      Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                      Originally posted by popsicle_3000
                      not true
                      AGREED
                      Thee Burstinator

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                      • popsicle_3000
                        Legendary Noob
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4641

                        #12
                        Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                        If the move to raw scoring happens, how will FC's be accounted for? Currently, if you've previously gotten a 200-100-0-x FC, then get 10-0-1-0 missing the last note, the latter is the better score, and you lose the FC in your stats.
                        I think that anytime you get a FC, that should stay in your stats. FC coding would have to be reworked anyways. how would this work?

                        Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                        39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                        Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                        one way to stream them all
                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                        But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                        Originally posted by thesunfan
                        replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                        Originally posted by reuben_tate
                        Title: Popsicle Three

                        Thousand the farthest
                        He's gone in an official
                        Whoop hip hip hooray!
                        Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                        kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                        @popsicle_3000:
                        Danger incoming
                        The popsicles are melting
                        Three thousand of them
                        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                        you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                        dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                        friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                        dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                        friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                        dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                        friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                        dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                        friend: thanks man
                        dynam0: no problem man
                        Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                        pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

                        Comment

                        • cedolad
                          moonchild~
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6879

                          #13
                          Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                          Originally posted by popsicle_3000
                          If the move to raw scoring happens, how will FC's be accounted for? Currently, if you've previously gotten a 200-100-0-x FC, then get 10-0-1-0 missing the last note, the latter is the better score, and you lose the FC in your stats.
                          I think that anytime you get a FC, that should stay in your stats. FC coding would have to be reworked anyways. how would this work?
                          and this is the reasoning behind combo scoring.

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                          • UserNameGoesHere
                            FFR Veteran
                            • May 2008
                            • 1114

                            #14
                            Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                            If raw scoring is implemented, then if you've ever gotten the FC, it should count as you having the FC, even if your current score is not an FC.

                            I think that's the only fair way to do it.

                            So once you hit an FC for a chart at all, boom, FC triggered for that, even if you get better non-FC scores.
                            Originally posted by Crashfan3
                            Man, what would we do without bored rednecks?

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                            • Frank Munoz
                              Muein
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 2047

                              #15
                              Re: Combo Scoring Discussion

                              I still suggest that Raw scoring should at-least be implemented to Tier points.
                              So we keep the uniqueness(arguably) of FFR's combo scoring and the nubs can get their silly mashed FC, but will not receive a high tier point.

                              Possibly adding a separate ranks page strictly for raw Tier; or just keep clean up the raw ranks page and make it as official as Combo scoring is where you have Top 10 for raw etc.
                              Unknown and Unofficial
                              may the good arrow guide you

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