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  • emulord
    FFR Veteran
    • Sep 2006
    • 778

    #91
    Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

    Mario 80s mix NEEDS to be that offsync for Starman to be a possible token, otherwise its as bad as entering a Good attack tourney. >.<

    I do agree we need more Funk, Hip Hop, and Classical to fill out those genres. Please, enough dance/misc already!

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    • qqwref
      stepmania archaeologist
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2005
      • 4092

      #92
      Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

      I never got the feeling that Starman was about offsyncness, the file is so easy that sync doesn't even come into it.

      I dunno about Funk, but it shouldn't be too hard to get more easy-ish Hip Hop and Classical files. Maybe someone should find a hip-hop or rap artist that they like and can get permission for, and then start stepping the vocals.
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      • woker-X
        .... :.. .:. ::
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2007
        • 1040

        #93
        Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

        why do the legacy songs appear in both token level ranks and public level ranks??

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        • Izzy
          Snek
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2003
          • 9195

          #94
          Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs



          I was looking through the song list and I found something kind of surprising. Everything prior to neomax, which I am pretty confident was the first colored song, is in legacy. Other than the purchased songs which haven't been moved for other reasons.

          Although there is the song "The Essential" that is actually stepped by synthlight and is before neomax, but has colored notes. Was this song turned into colored notes later after they figured out how to do colored notes or was it actually the first colored song?

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          • Velocity
            Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Administrator
            • Jul 2007
            • 1817

            #95
            Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

            Originally posted by Izzy
            Although there is the song "The Essential" that is actually stepped by synthlight and is before neomax, but has colored notes. Was this song turned into colored notes later after they figured out how to do colored notes or was it actually the first colored song?
            I think that one was redone with color notes + onsync.

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            • Izzy
              Snek
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 9195

              #96
              Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

              Then after that they realized they were able to fix old songs but were to lazy to do so. That would have been the perfect time to do it to.

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              • jimerax
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Nov 2003
                • 8185

                #97
                Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                I don't remember well but 3-4 songs were fixed at that point.

                everything is "technically" fixable w/ correct sync and color as long as we have dwi and mp3.

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                • Izzy
                  Snek
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 9195

                  #98
                  Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                  Well yea they are fixable, but now we aren't going to because they are "legacy" files. Back then there was no conflict because they were all new files.

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                  • jimerax
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 8185

                    #99
                    Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                    Yeah in short, these are all Synth's decisions.

                    Basically he wants to keep blue note files as they are, and he just wanted to fix a few ones for some reason at that time (early 2004?).

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                    • qqwref
                      stepmania archaeologist
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 4092

                      #100
                      Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                      Originally posted by jimerax
                      everything is "technically" fixable w/ correct sync and color as long as we have dwi and mp3.
                      Not *everything*. Some of the earliest files (mostly by Synthlight) were not made with a dwi at all, but were basically just done by recording keytaps. If a blue note file has all the jumps 1 or 2 frames off, you can be certain it was done this way. The later Synth files (and files by other authors) do generally conform to a set BPM, though.

                      I agree with Synth's decisions, though. It's wrong to make a song easier after all these years.
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                      • jimerax
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 8185

                        #101
                        Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                        so that's just because we have no dwis for those song.

                        If we want we can remake the dwi from the gameplay vid and make them an onsync color note files, technically.

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                        • qqwref
                          stepmania archaeologist
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 4092

                          #102
                          Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                          No, I mean, a dwi/sm wouldn't really make sense for those songs. You could pull colors out of thin air if you wanted, but it wouldn't help a player at all, because the time-placement of the notes doesn't follow a consistent rhythm/bpm or go to the song.

                          Keep in mind, only maybe a dozen or so of the blue note files are like this; most have a constant bpm and could be converted into a dwi/sm and then recolored meaningfully.
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                          • Plan_Bsk81127
                            snooches
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6420

                            #103
                            Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                            They are better off staying blue noted, they are a mess when put into color and if you were to try and sync them to be like all 8th notes or something, would take a lot of time. Wouldnt really matter anyway since a majority of the notes in those songs dont go to any part of the music anyway, just random notes. lol

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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #104
                              Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                              can these not affect public ranks now

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                              • Mourningfall
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1627

                                #105
                                Re: Bluenote/Synth Songs

                                Originally posted by jimerax
                                Yeah in short, these are all Synth's decisions.

                                Basically he wants to keep blue note files as they are--
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