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  • irn00b
    FFR Player
    • May 2006
    • 146

    #1

    1 hand play

    I'm learning 1 hand and I was wondering how the *----* do you do rolls or staircases with 1 hand?

    Thx in advance.
  • xjohnieboyx
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2006
    • 1630

    #2
    Re: 1 hand play

    Well that's precisely why 1 handed play is difficult. There's no "way" to do them... Just do them. Slowly you'll adapt and be able to do them.

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    • Kevin_18
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2005
      • 680

      #3
      Re: 1 hand play

      Take my advice, don't learn 1 hand style....unless you only play FFR.
      But if you want to play Stepmania, i'd definitely learn Spread style over 1 handed easily.

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      • i_like_ham
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2005
        • 80

        #4
        Re: 1 hand play

        what do the terms "rolls" and "staircases" mean??
        i have no cool quote from anyone else...

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        • xjohnieboyx
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2006
          • 1630

          #5
          Re: 1 hand play

          read the stickies.

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          • Kevin_18
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2005
            • 680

            #6
            Re: 1 hand play

            stair cases are like this:


            as for rolls:
            all they are is a hold but you have to keep moving to get it to count. ending in a "Yeah" means you got it.

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            • Dronak
              FFR Veteran
              • Jun 2004
              • 601

              #7
              Re: 1 hand play

              I'm not a very good player, so you might want to see if better 1-handed players offer some advice. But for me, I handle the right-up-down-left combination in a roll or staircase by sliding my middle finger from the up arrow key to the down arrow key. That's assuming it's fast enough that I can't easily hit the arrow keys separately in my usual fashion. Granted, this probably isn't the best way to do it (same for how I get up/down doubles with one finger), but it usually works for me. I suspect it will fail, or at least not work as well, on harder and faster songs, but for what I usually play, this is often enough to get me through this pattern.

              As for the opposite pattern, left-down-up-right, this gives me trouble. At slower speeds, I can handle it. But I can't slide my finger upwards from the down arrow key to the up arrow key, so at higher speeds I'm kind of stuck. I just end up missing them and only getting 3 of 4 arrows if I'm lucky. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions on how to hit this pattern one-handed.

              P.S. -- Isn't a roll either right-up-down-left repeated or left-down-up-right repeated?

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              • T0rajir0u
                FFR Player
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 2946

                #8
                Re: 1 hand play

                roll is also a specific itg term
                hehe

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                • FluorescentArmy
                  Forum User
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1754

                  #9
                  Re: 1 hand play

                  Staircases come with practice.
                  Rolls come with more.
                  Yes I play one handed.
                  I will beat you Cj.

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                  • FluorescentArmy
                    Forum User
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1754

                    #10
                    Re: 1 hand play

                    Staircases come with practice.
                    Rolls come with more.
                    Yes I play one handed.
                    I will beat you Cj.

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                    • Yesssss
                      FFR Player
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 2522

                      #11
                      Re: 1 hand play

                      Originally posted by Dronak
                      I'm not a very good player, so you might want to see if better 1-handed players offer some advice. But for me, I handle the right-up-down-left combination in a roll or staircase by sliding my middle finger from the up arrow key to the down arrow key. That's assuming it's fast enough that I can't easily hit the arrow keys separately in my usual fashion. Granted, this probably isn't the best way to do it (same for how I get up/down doubles with one finger), but it usually works for me.
                      If you can't hit the keys that fast normally then it is the best way to do it. I usually need to do it on 240bpm+ streams, but for someone who's slower it probably will be better to do that at slower speeds.
                      I also do this on other patterns whenever I need to. Patterns like 62862686268626862.
                      Originally posted by Dronak
                      As for the opposite pattern, left-down-up-right, this gives me trouble. At slower speeds, I can handle it. But I can't slide my finger upwards from the down arrow key to the up arrow key, so at higher speeds I'm kind of stuck. I just end up missing them and only getting 3 of 4 arrows if I'm lucky. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions on how to hit this pattern one-handed.
                      If it's fast, treat it as a 42 and 68 double. If it's too fast to do that, then mash 28 with one finger. It takes practice and speed to do it well.
                      Originally posted by Dronak
                      P.S. -- Isn't a roll either right-up-down-left repeated or left-down-up-right repeated?
                      I think it's any 4 arrow pattern that repeats itself.
                      YOU JUST WON THE GAME! CONGRATULATIONS!

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                      • sjoecool1991
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2302

                        #12
                        Re: 1 hand play

                        If you play for a while on SM, you can become really good at one hand. There arer some godlike one handers.

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                        • Dronak
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 601

                          #13
                          Re: 1 hand play

                          Originally posted by Yesssss
                          If you can't hit the keys that fast normally then it is the best way to do it. . . .
                          I also do this on other patterns whenever I need to. Patterns like 62862686268626862.
                          I think that's the first time I've gotten some form of confirmation that sliding from up to down is OK/good. I understand that the better you are, the faster the song will have to be before you need to do it. I probably need to do it on slower songs than you do. I think that if I get a pattern with just three arrows, I try to get three fingers in on it. I know I've used the index for down/2 before for dense patterns on the right side, but I'm not sure I've used the ring finger for up/8 with dense left side patterns very much.

                          Originally posted by Yesssss
                          If it's fast, treat it as a 42 and 68 double. If it's too fast to do that, then mash 28 with one finger. It takes practice and speed to do it well.
                          Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try to remember the 42 and 68 double idea. I can try the 28 mash as a sort of backup plan. Mashing does seem to work sometimes. I think my recent 370 (out of 372) combo on 8-Bit Day Dreamer was a result of a lucky mash in the heavy stream part(s). I'm honestly surprised that I actually hit all of the arrows in that section, even if it was mashed. (I think a tempo change or something at the end caused the 1 miss I got on that play.) Normally, I do try to hit arrows and don't intentionally think "I'm going to mash this now", even if that's basically what I end up doing in order to keep stay alive.

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                          • Garbanian
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 88

                            #14
                            Re: 1 hand play

                            im a one hand player, those rolls and staircases arent THAT diffucult, just takes a few weeks of playing, like, play an hour or two a day, and gradually learn

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                            • irn00b
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2006
                              • 146

                              #15
                              Re: 1 hand play

                              Ok, thanks. I play spread pretty well and wanted to learn 1hand because I saw "Yesssssss" vid of drinking a root beer while passing MSWGO. I thought it was hawt ;D

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