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  • hayatewillown
    FFR Veteran
    • Dec 2005
    • 413

    #16
    Re: Apocalypse

    About the overpopulation thing,
    I think that COULD possibly cause our specific demise. Only because we would have a higher risk of disease. I don't think that one disease could wipe off a couple million people though.

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    • Maid
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2006
      • 643

      #17
      Re: Apocalypse

      Even if nuclear war happens of major proportions, some will still survive. Don't underestimate humans. If something does end humans all together it would have to be something all encompassing. Like a large object falling on earth, some sort of disease that can wipe all humans and spread easily(likeliness of such indiscriminate and easy to transfer disease are as likely as something falling on our planet and obliterating it).
      怒りの剣も嘆きの傷も 跡形もなく溶けて消えて散って逝っててああー

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      • x-Thief
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2007
        • 26

        #18
        Re: Apocalypse

        Originally posted by Maid
        Even if nuclear war happens of major proportions, some will still survive. Don't underestimate humans.
        Wouldn't the nuclear radiation, if the war was on a large enough scale, be enough to completely obliterate the environment? I think if enough counties were involved, even the people who weren't using nuclear bombs would be affected.


        Like a large object falling on earth, some sort of disease that can wipe all humans and spread easily(likeliness of such indiscriminate and easy to transfer disease are as likely as something falling on our planet and obliterating it).
        It's not /that/ unlikely for either of those things to happen. (particularly the disease idea) But it's almost certain that at some point we'll be struck by something big by outerspace, but that's on the same scale as "the sun will go out." Chances are we won't be hit by anything big for tens of thousands of years but, still.

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        • trillobyite
          FFR Player
          • Oct 2003
          • 310

          #19
          Re: Apocalypse

          In 3 years, Iran will get a nuclear weapon, "accidentally" sell it to a bunch of terrorists, who will blow up New York, and the result will probably be the end of the world. Then we'll end up in a carbon-copy of a Fallout game, with warlords taking over areas of the desert that were once fields, until civilization reforms, and we're back where we started.
          Every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lives here on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.
          http://obs.nineplanets.org/psc/pbd.html

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          • devonin
            Very Grave Indeed
            Event Staff
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2004
            • 10120

            #20
            Re: Apocalypse

            Of the countries that are nuclear capable, or are trying to become nuclear capable, Iran is one of the -last- ones I'd think would either launch a nuclear weapon, or sell one to some random terrorist group.

            France and Russia historically will be the ones most likely to sell them off to people, and I'd say between North/South Korea, and the India/Pakistan tensions, they both come in ahead of Iran for using one themselves.

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            • jewpinthethird
              (The Fat's Sabobah)
              FFR Music Producer
              • Nov 2002
              • 11711

              #21
              Re: Apocalypse

              Originally posted by rules_the_school
              Or is it that the Apocalypse is a bunch of bullox created by parinoid scientists? I belive that we're going to end up killing each other in the end for total control of the earth's ressorces, but that's just me.
              More like the Apocalypse is a bunch of bullsh*t created by everyone but scientists. There is no scientific evidence, or reason to believe, that the world will end during your lifetime. Yes, the sun will run out of hydrogen to fuse, but mankind won't even be around when it happens billions of years from now.

              In fact, history shows that every generation wants to think it is living in the "End of Times." And ever since the creation of atomic weapons, and biological weapons, there has been a real threat of the Apocalypse. But, really, there's no point in worrying about it.

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              • chunky_cheese
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2004
                • 1736

                #22
                Re: Apocalypse

                Originally posted by rules_the_school
                I belive that we're going to end up killing each other in the end for total control of the earth's ressorces, but that's just me.
                Battlefield 2142.

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                • Sir_Thomas
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 848

                  #23
                  Re: Apocalypse

                  Most species have based their survival off of their phsyical strength and/or speed... Thanks to evolultion, humans differ from other species... now, instead of basing our survival off of physical superiority like other species, our survival is more based on intelligence.

                  I see the problems we cause as a way to help our minds evolve...
                  I think when it comes down to it, I think we will solve the problems we cause...

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                  • trillobyite
                    FFR Player
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 310

                    #24
                    Re: Apocalypse

                    Originally posted by devonin
                    Of the countries that are nuclear capable, or are trying to become nuclear capable, Iran is one of the -last- ones I'd think would either launch a nuclear weapon, or sell one to some random terrorist group.

                    France and Russia historically will be the ones most likely to sell them off to people, and I'd say between North/South Korea, and the India/Pakistan tensions, they both come in ahead of Iran for using one themselves.
                    Iran is calling for other nation's destruction and already funds loads of terrorist groups, sometimes even giving direct orders to them. France doesn't sell nukes, they just help develop them, and Russia is not really a major player, I would agree if you said USSR. Usually when nations like India/Pakistan or South korea get weapons it is for detrrent reasons, but whateva. We shouldn't turn this thread to politics, it's a bad habit of mine

                    But my point about the world becoming fallout still stands. We probably will descend to warlord feudalism status.
                    Every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lives here on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.
                    http://obs.nineplanets.org/psc/pbd.html

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                    • rules_the_school
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 46

                      #25
                      Re: Apocalypse

                      Lol you leave for two days and suddenly there's another page on your thread...

                      Well, reading all this I'm now starting to realise we won't have any real danger for a while and that the Apocalypse IS a bunch extreme paranoia on the "Missinformed" civilian part.

                      *We're missinformed in a way because our media likes to go over the top with everything and they don't give us all the facts. Why is this important? Looking at MY (Keymord: My) social group, most people only believe what they see on t.v*

                      Fat kid rules the world. And space.

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                      • Turboyoshi
                        What is this i don't even
                        • May 2005
                        • 1211

                        #26
                        Re: Apocalypse

                        Originally posted by hayatewillown
                        About the overpopulation thing,
                        I think that COULD possibly cause our specific demise. Only because we would have a higher risk of disease. I don't think that one disease could wipe off a couple million people though.
                        Spanish Flu, 1918-1920
                        50-100 million killed

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                        • ljw5021
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 40

                          #27
                          Re: Apocalypse

                          The sun will not burn out before we find another place to live, unless the government cuts funding from NASA. The sun has between 4-5 billion years left before it even begins to turn into a red giant. It will remain a red giant for millions of years, before turning into a white dwarf and slowly cooling down.

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                          • ljw5021
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 40

                            #28
                            Re: Apocalypse

                            Originally posted by Turboyoshi
                            Spanish Flu, 1918-1920
                            50-100 million killed
                            I'm not sure how that'd pan out with today's technology in a technologically advanced country, though.

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                            • devonin
                              Very Grave Indeed
                              Event Staff
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 10120

                              #29
                              Re: Apocalypse

                              Originally posted by ljw5021
                              The sun will not burn out before we find another place to live, unless the government cuts funding from NASA. The sun has between 4-5 billion years left before it even begins to turn into a red giant. It will remain a red giant for millions of years, before turning into a white dwarf and slowly cooling down.

                              Maybe if we were actually looking for another place to live, you could make that statement. But NASA as a program isn't really doing all that much these days. It is kinda looking at some things, but viable methods of a) moving people outside the solar system (because if you're talking about humans living safely after bad things happen to the sun, extra-sol living is what we're talking about) and b) finding a way for them to viably live doesn't seem all that high on NASA's list.

                              I'm not sure how that'd pan out with today's technology in a technologically advanced country, though.
                              Yeah, I guess the millions of people dying of Cancer, and AIDS and all that will just have to suffer slowly insted of dying to Influenza. A suitably virulent disease would spread -more- easily today than it would have decades ago, because of the rate at which people travel internationally. You could easily end up in an entirely different hemisphere before your symptoms began appearing.

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                              • jewpinthethird
                                (The Fat's Sabobah)
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 11711

                                #30
                                Re: Apocalypse

                                Originally posted by trillobyite
                                and Russia is not really a major player, I would agree if you said USSR.
                                Don't forget, Russia still has a stock-pile of nukes left-over from the Cold War. They didn't just disappear. And in a nation that isn't exactly "secure," it's a bad combination.

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