Apocalypse

[rules_the_school]

Do you think we contribute to the inevitable demise of our species more then any other species? Are we humans making our world harder and harder to live in? Or is the sun really going to burn out before we can find another source of light and heat? Or is it that the Apocalypse is a bunch of bullox created by parinoid scientists? I belive that we're going to end up killing each other in the end for total control of the earth's ressorces, but that's just me.

*I mean Apocalypse as in the demise of our race, not in our planet.*

[hayatewillown]

Re: Apocalypse

I don't remember quite well, but I think the Mayans believed that the world was supposed to end in 2012. I found a site that has this guy saying it here:

http://www.godrealized.com/2012.html

I'm not quite sure also about the Apocalypse though, but the end of the world is questionable. I don't really believe that the world is going to end, because of my whole religion, I believe that the Revelation series is going to happen, and I know I'll be in heaven, that is, if Christianity is true as what it says it is.

=P

When I was a kid though, I always thought the sun was going to explode. I learned later that that would take millions of years. Lol.

[rules_the_school]

Re: Apocalypse

Ah I see, that site certainely reminded me of the whole Y2K Thing, oh and high five for believing in Christianity.

[hayatewillown]

Re: Apocalypse

Ah I see, that site certainely reminded me of the whole Y2K Thing, oh and high five for believing in Christianity.

Yeah thanks,

but as far as I am concerned, I am trying to not push my beliefs on anyone and I am trying to not use biblical references. There are many theories on how the world will end. For some, it's the sun, for me, Revelations, and for some that love the historical Mayan way, the year 2012.

[devonin]

Re: Apocalypse

Do you think we contribute to the inevitable demise of our species more then any other species?

I would in fact argue that we are the -only- species that is actively contributing to our own eventual demise.

Are we humans making our world harder and harder to live in?

We're certainly making it harder for -us- to live here.

Or is the sun really going to burn out before we can find another source of light and heat?

Given what we know about the lifespan of stars, that is not something we would need to worry about for a span of time in the millions of years. I'd be more worried about betelgeuse going supernova and potentially creating some unpleasant forms of radiation.

Or is it that the Apocalypse is a bunch of bullox created by parinoid scientists?

I've known far more non-scientists with thoughts about an impending apocalypse than I have scientists. In fact it is usually those who have no particular background in science at all that have been the most vocal proponants of various apocalypse theories.

I belive that we're going to end up killing each other in the end for total control of the earth's ressorces, but that's just me.

That's one of the safer bets, given our history and the way things look to be going.

[Reach]

Re: Apocalypse

I don't remember quite well, but I think the Mayans believed that the world was supposed to end in 2012. I found a site that has this guy saying it here:
http://www.godrealized.com/2012.html

The mayans did not believe the world would end in 2012. This is a misinterpretation of the mayan calander. You can think of 2012 on the mayan calander as similar to moving to a new millenium on ours. The date itself doesn't predict anything.

[IceSide]

Re: Apocalypse

Didn't the Mayans disappear? Maybe they just didn't finish their calendar is what I think.

[devonin]

Re: Apocalypse

I think it is appropriate to say that the Mayans have disappered in the same way that it is appropriate to say that the Romans have disappeared.

[hayatewillown]

Re: Apocalypse

The mayans did not believe the world would end in 2012. This is a misinterpretation of the mayan calander. You can think of 2012 on the mayan calander as similar to moving to a new millenium on ours. The date itself doesn't predict anything.

I demand proof. This is CT After all.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Apocalypse

I would in fact argue that we are the -only- species that is actively contributing to our own eventual demise.

Well, that depends. Do you consider overpopulating an ecosystem to the point that the species can't survive contributing to their demise?

If yes, then we are very much not alone. If no, I would wager that there are a handful who have destroyed their environment so much that none of the species could live there.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Wyde]

Re: Apocalypse

Do you think we contribute to the inevitable demise of our species more then any other species?

Well, yes. There haven't been a lot of animal vs. human wars that I can research in any point of history, so I don't think they'd be taking the blame for total human wipeout any time soon. Human vs. Human wars actually exist. And of course they often result in nice big death tolls. But even then, that's not enough to wipe out the human race, despite the amount of them going on.

I think a nuclear war is going to be the only cause of any apocalypse that may happen in present day. It's the only thing apart from some freak-out natural disaster I'd think would cause enough damage. Apart from the painfully slow economical smackdown theory resulting from over-population. Actually, that could be the CAUSE for the world ending nuclear war.

And that will be humans doing that, not the lion emperor.

And speaking of the Mayan prediction of the end of the world, who knows? Maybe they just predicted the date of a worldwide nuclear bombing. 5 YEARS TO GO...

[x-Thief]

Re: Apocalypse

Do you think we contribute to the inevitable demise of our species more then any other species?

I believe we do. Like Wyde said, it would be pretty safe to say that animals won't be contributing much to our race's demise any time soon.

The nuclear war theory is probably the best assumption on what is going to eventually wipe out our race, an apocalypse so to say. And that of course /would/ be the fault of man entirely. With as many countries as there are holding nuclear weapons today (and countries that aren't agreeing with each other, might I add) a nuclear war is, eventually, inevitable.

However, if there were to be an apocalypse it /is/ possible that it would be something that we had no control over. A possibility is a pandemic. Think, if one third to one half of medieval Europe was wiped out by a plague when it still tooks years to travel, think about the damage a desease could cause if it were to strike today. It would be virtually around the entire world in about 24 hours.

There is also the theory of some sort of super storm, which I think is a little less likely, but with our contribution of polutents to the atmosphere we could tweak our climate enough to make something big happen, in which case we would be contributing.

I don't think the sun burning out is really a problem, as has been said it's on a span of millions of years. I think that man would end up destroying itself a long time before the sun blows out, and there are much more current dangers to focus on.

So we really /are/ contributing a lot to our own failure, but there are still a few possibilities of an "apocalyse" that's outside of our hands.

[jin231]

Re: Apocalypse

no.

I believe we do. Like Wyde said, it would be pretty safe to say that animals won't be contributing much to our race's demise any time soon.

The nuclear war theory is probably the best assumption on what is going to eventually wipe out our race, an apocalypse so to say. And that of course /would/ be the fault of man entirely. With as many countries as there are holding nuclear weapons today (and countries that aren't agreeing with each other, might I add) a nuclear war is, eventually, inevitable.

However, if there were to be an apocalypse it /is/ possible that it would be something that we had no control over. A possibility is a pandemic. Think, if one third to one half of medieval Europe was wiped out by a plague when it still tooks years to travel, think about the damage a desease could cause if it were to strike today. It would be virtually around the entire world in about 24 hours.

There is also the theory of some sort of super storm, which I think is a little less likely, but with our contribution of polutents to the atmosphere we could tweak our climate enough to make something big happen, in which case we would be contributing.

I don't think the sun burning out is really a problem, as has been said it's on a span of millions of years. I think that man would end up destroying itself a long time before the sun blows out, and there are much more current dangers to focus on.

So we really /are/ contributing a lot to our own failure, but there are still a few possibilities of an "apocalyse" that's outside of our hands.

[devonin]

Re: Apocalypse

Well, that depends. Do you consider overpopulating an ecosystem to the point that the species can't survive contributing to their demise?

How much of that is the species on its own, and how much of that is because humans have modified that ecosystem sufficiently that there are no longer enough predators to hold back the population, and how much of that is because humans have transplanted a species into an ecosystem in which it doesn't belong?

There are plenty of populations spiralling out of control, and all the examples I can think of are species not native to the environment which they are overpopulating (Zebra Mussles come to mind immidiately)

Also, Jin231, welcome to Critical Thinking. Unlike other portions of the forum, posts that simply say "I agree" or "I disagree" are not only inappropriate, they are specifically against the rules. You are welcome to stay, and contribute to any and all of the discussions ongoing in the forum, provided your posts contribute. Tell us your thoughts, tell us -why- you agree or disagree.

[Reach]

Re: Apocalypse

Didn't the Mayans disappear? Maybe they just didn't finish their calendar is what I think.

Calanders don't end.

It's just something similiar to our millenium coming up (but larger) and people started spreading false rumors about it.


And all species have a hand in their demise. We just happen to be a little more direct about it. Though I don't plan on us going extinct any time soon. I think we can hold ourselves together through the rough times.