Real musicians

[Wlfwnd91]

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It is, though, interesting to note some of the iconic examples of artforms that virtually everyone in a culture will identify as being such, even if they don't particularly like it.

The Mona Lisa, Beethoven's 4th and 9th symphonies, etc etc. They've just somehow entered the collective consciousness as being -art- and in such cases, being -good- art even though we all freely admit how subjective such things are.

But, what makes these things so accepted as art? Is it possible that it's just that they were accepted as art by the mainstream for so many years so it's just become typical to believe it to be art? Or is there something that just seems to make sense? Something in all those works of art that everyone just identifies as artistic?

[tsugomaru]

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If we were to take this logically, real musicians would be the ones who measure out each and every wavelength and frequency and compose a combination of these wavelengths and frequencies into a piece that is most pleasing to the ear. However, the basis of this is all opinion and the result is also, all opinion. So we can rule logic out in this discussion.

Real musicians are those who make music. It doesn't matter whether the music is original, from the heart, or just plain noise, as long as there's someone to enjoy it, it'll be music.

~Tsugomaru

[jewpinthethird]

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With tracking, from what I understand during my experiments and such, you kind of have to know exactly what you are going for, what sound you want, and how to get it.

Actually, I'd say that great thing about tracking is that you can experiment with various sounds and arrangements at a whim.

A majority of them time, I go into making a song with no preconceived idea. A lot of my inspiration comes from working with various synthesizers and effects to make a sound. Recently, I've gotten into using samples, many of them my own. I'm trying use more acoustic instruments in my songs. I also like using the cut-up technique to rearrange songs. But for the most part, it's pure electronic music, probably incapable being reproduced by conventional instruments. I mean, if you asked me to play one of my songs on a keyboard...i'd just laugh at you (actually, there are a few that I've composed on my synthesizer, but rarely more than a riff).

[cammy_g1]

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A drummer is most definitely a musician, anybody that does not think so is most obviously blind to the fact that drummers do solos, and they sound amazing. I mean if a person can make rhythmic sounds from hitting drums then dont you think they should be worthy of being a musician, i mean phil collins is known as a musician and he just makes noise.

[Killler_bunny]

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Music is, really when you think about it, just noise. If you can make noise, while making it sound good (good being anything from a cute riff to a steady beat, and everything in between), you are a musician of sorts. It's really easy to go around hitting a drum or strum a few strings and call yourself a musician, the thing is, if you're not good, no one will listen to you... So, what it all comes down to, is yeah, a drummer is a musician, just as much as a guitarist is. (or any other instrument)

[cammy_g1]

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Music is just noise if that is the way you think about it, but i think music is a reflection of soul and the life that you lead. A real musician, in my opinion, as no answer is the correct one, is a person in which believes in their music and has a passion for it, it just flows through them like blood. A person that just does it for the money is not a musician in my eyes.

[Bamboozler]

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I just recently finished/quit our school band (played the clarinet for some years). I can say without a doubt in my mind that drummers are musicians, as they play a key role in supporting just about ANY song, even in a classical instrument band such as my schools.

To put it into perspective, imagine a platoon of well built, battle ready, honor driven marines, ready to go out and fight for the justice and glory of their civilization (Your lead singer, guitarists, and perhaps keyboard). Now send them into combat without guns. This essentially the same thing as a band without drums.

Of course, there are a few, rare exceptions to this analogy, such as guitar soloists and a select few bands. but, in reality, well over half of today's modern bands have a drummer in them, and boy, do they make a difference.

[RB_IcePh0enix]

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It's really not an opinion if you think about it. A musician is obvious someone who makes music and drums are music, whether it's a hard or easy song. It's like discussing if electronica DJ's are musicians or not. Even though it's electronic music, it's still music. End of story.

[RB_Dreamscanner]

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music is music
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[Moogle-master]

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I beleive a real musician would see the beauty in all types of music, not just their own preferred music. Also having the natural gift to be able to pick up any instrument and to be able to play it without instruction.

If you play an instrument, no matter what it is. You are a musician. You have to know some theory behind the music to be a good musician and to able to understand the movement within a peice.

Oh, if that made any sense. ;_;

[rules_the_school]

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A real musician is a person who play's music just for the sake of music, not for money or fame, just so they can hear the sound. Or a musician who play's music to get real messages through, like an exact opposite of 50 cent (no disses, just example)who doesn't talk about sex, drugs and being a gangsta' but instead about how corrupt politic's is, how unfair being black can be, or how the gap between rich white kids (Sorry but it's mostly them..) and poverty ridden asians and african's is growing. So to me, a real musician is someone who is not afraid to sing what they feel, instead of something that sell's.

[A2_Sauce]

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R u kidding?!?
Its hard to get the right rythem down and to learn how to use your foot in beat with your hands.

lmao, try playing the cello you donk

[V3T_ddrultramix3]

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Two of the best drummers in the world are John Bonham from Led Zeppelin and Chirs Adler from Lamb of God.

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You forgot *forgets name* from Rush.

[devonin]

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Neil Peart. And yes, he's incredible, but I think any discussion of drummers is incomplete without Gene Krupa (Who I feel is arguably the greatest drummer who has ever existed)

[hayatewillown]

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Try playing a drum set sometime. Moving four limbs independently of each other while keeping the tempo and rhythm ain't no easy task.

Very true.