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  • Cenright
    You thought I was a GUY?!
    • Sep 2003
    • 3139

    #121
    When you are doing infinity/infinity, you never actually have to divide them. They become a concept which makes them not even divided. The infinities just negate each other to an extent. What kind of constants you have on it is how it comes out differenty, but you never have to atually do inf/inf. There are always other factors that are in the equation. It sounds weird, and you go in thinking what you are thinking, but Calculus blows your mind and you do understand if afterward. You can't just explain it without fully getting into the math.
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    • scorpio1690
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2003
      • 4817

      #122
      Well... If you wouldn't mind, I'm writing two english papers right now but I'd still like to at least learn a bit lol. So please, if you want, go into the math, or explain what leads up to calc. or how it works or at least somethin to get me concentrating on one thing and not fuckin bouncin from physics to trig. to whatever else I think of.

      Off Topic: This is probably the longest most intelligent topic I've ever seen or been a part of on FFR

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      • makaveli121212
        FFR Player
        • May 2003
        • 3823

        #123
        it is obvious many of you dont know a lot about calac...infinity/infinity can be any number...ANY NUMBER depending on the function...if you want to know how look up a guy named L'Hospital...i mentioned this before in this thread
        Originally posted by VxDx
        Stick it in her butt and pee.

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        • 87x
          Retired Staff
          • Dec 2002
          • 4379

          #124
          well instead of thinking infinity / infinity.. get out of that boxed frame of mind that says you can't do it because its not real.. well think of it like this..
          ifinity continues on forever therefore we cant think of a nuemerical value to represent it.. so we use any value that we know infinity had to pass to get where it is going..
          for infinity to be a number it has to go through all the numbers we know and keep continuing..
          so lets substitue infinity with 7.. now anything divided by itself = 1.. so letting 7 represent infinity would be 7/7=1... now lets swtich that up so that 1000 represents infinity, 1000/1000=1... and you could follow that forever..
          BUT WAIT.. saying infinity / infinity gives it a numerical value.. but thats not right because infinity has no numereical value.. so instead of substituting numbers we could set it up like this..
          A B
          Infinity / Infinity
          1 / 1 = 1
          2 / 2 = 2

          let this chart represent a program that divides the constantly running number in column A by the constantly running number in column B... now in each column we will have 2 infinitys running forever at the same time.. while these two infinitys are running everytime they switch numbers the program will divide the numbers... and the answer will always be 1.. forever.. using this we can say that infinty/infinity = 1....


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          • VxDx
            FFR Player
            • May 2003
            • 1871

            #125
            here's the deal. infinity divided by infinity is meaningless. It isn't, one, zero, a constant, an irrational number, or infinity (+ or -).

            the idea that makaveli is supporting is the closest to right, and 87x is right in a very specific sense. (edit: centright is right too, but since I haven't read what everyone said, I'm not going to list everyone who's been right.)

            87x basically said that lim(n->inf) n/n = 1 which is true. (the limit as n approaches infinity of n divided by n)

            makaveli said that it could be anything, which is true as well. take for instance

            lim(x->inf) x^2/x = lim(x->inf) x = infinity
            lim(x->inf) 2x/x = lim(x->inf) 2 = 2
            lim(x->inf) 2/x = 0

            but in each case, it can be written infinity/infinity.

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            • heyhey11
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 403

              #126
              ok this is my brain before entering this thread O
              This is my brain now \ /
              ----- <---------- BOOM (sound affects)
              / \
              Originally posted by 87x
              if some dude was hiding in the bushes trying to get a picture of me.. and i found him.. thats an invasion of privacy.. ima whoop his ass.. then sue him.. then have sex with his wife just out of spite

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              • jimerax
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Nov 2003
                • 8185

                #127
                More infinity/infinity case, for example,

                lim(n->inf) x^n = infinity (n=positive integer, x=positive real number),
                lim(n->inf) n! = infinity,

                then for arbitrary x,

                lim(n->inf) x^n/n! = 0

                infinity/infinity has no decisive answer, the answer is different in each case as we showed.

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                • 87x
                  Retired Staff
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 4379

                  #128
                  87x basically said that lim(n->inf) n/n = 1 which is true. (the limit as n approaches infinity of n divided by n)
                  I love it when people say im right..


                  RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer.
                  87x: more like.. professional goth.

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                  • makaveli121212
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2003
                    • 3823

                    #129
                    yeah well you did say 2 / 2 = 2, 5 posts before me here
                    Originally posted by VxDx
                    Stick it in her butt and pee.

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                    • Anticrombie0909
                      FFR Player
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 4683

                      #130
                      This is completely off topic, but since I find them interesting and nobody read the thread that was intended for them, and there's no other intelligent place to put them, I figured people might want to take a break from the insanely complicated math and rock their noodles for awhile. Here's a paradox I know of.

                      A knight guards a path that goes over a hill and leads to a kingdom. This knight has the ability to distinguish who is telling a lie and who is being honest. If they lie, he kills them. If they are honest, he lets them pass. One day, a man walks up the hill and the knight says "Stop! Identify your reason for passing into this kingdom." The man says "I am here for you to kill me." What does the knight do? He can't kill him, because he was telling the truth. But if he lets him pass then the man will have been lying, so he should kill him, but he was telling the truth in the first place. See if you can figure it out.

                      Here's another one that isn't a paradox because it has an answer, but it took me a minute to figure out.

                      There is a fork in the road. One way leads to Truth Town, where everyone tells the truth, and one leads to Liar Town, where everybody lies. You come to the fork and stop to think. You want to get to Truth Town, but you don't know which way it is. You see a local and decide to ask for directions to truth town. But you can't tell which town they are from, and if they are from Liar Town, they will lie. What can you ask the local so that no matter what town he is from, he will always tell you where Truth Town is?

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                      • scorpio1690
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4817

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Anticrombie0909
                        This is completely off topic, but since I find them interesting and nobody read the thread that was intended for them, and there's no other intelligent place to put them, I figured people might want to take a break from the insanely complicated math and rock their noodles for awhile. Here's a paradox I know of.

                        A knight guards a path that goes over a hill and leads to a kingdom. This knight has the ability to distinguish who is telling a lie and who is being honest. If they lie, he kills them. If they are honest, he lets them pass. One day, a man walks up the hill and the knight says "Stop! Identify your reason for passing into this kingdom." The man says "I am here for you to kill me." What does the knight do? He can't kill him, because he was telling the truth. But if he lets him pass then the man will have been lying, so he should kill him, but he was telling the truth in the first place. See if you can figure it out.

                        Here's another one that isn't a paradox because it has an answer, but it took me a minute to figure out.

                        There is a fork in the road. One way leads to Truth Town, where everyone tells the truth, and one leads to Liar Town, where everybody lies. You come to the fork and stop to think. You want to get to Truth Town, but you don't know which way it is. You see a local and decide to ask for directions to truth town. But you can't tell which town they are from, and if they are from Liar Town, they will lie. What can you ask the local so that no matter what town he is from, he will always tell you where Truth Town is?
                        For the first one, the man could have been lying by saying he;s there to be killed. And the second one, I use to know the answer, but then forgot. You shoot the man and take the 50-50 chance

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                        • jpyb007
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 58

                          #132
                          That's possible...but then the knight would have to kill him and what the person said would become true, then the knight would have to let the dead body pass since what the person said would become true.

                          The second one's pretty simple...you ask them what town they came from...the liar would point to Truth and the person from Truth would point to Truth.
                          \"A single death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.\"
                          \"Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.\"

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                          • scorpio1690
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4817

                            #133
                            Originally posted by jpyb007
                            The second one's pretty simple...you ask them what town they came from...the liar would point to Truth and the person from Truth would point to Truth.
                            Then you shoot him for making you think.

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                            • jpyb007
                              FFR Player
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 58

                              #134
                              Sounds good...then you go to Truth since the truth almost always sucks, then shoot the people of Truth.
                              \"A single death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.\"
                              \"Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.\"

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                              • lightdarkness
                                Summer!!
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 11308

                                #135
                                is it weird i dont know what the fuck is going on?
                                what are you guys smokeing
                                i thought infinity was a little kids word meaning
                                Billy:"when i grow up i want a million billion dollars"
                                Jonny: "Yeah, well i want an infinity dollars"
                                Billy:"well i want an infinity plus 1"
                                Jonny: "i want an infinity times infinity"
                                Billy:"Damn, im a failur, gg, k thx"

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