Interesting indeed

[Cenright]

Addressing the Crowd:
Sounds confusing doesn't it people? Let me put out on the table that the human mind (in its current state) can not fully even comprehend the full concept of infinity.

EXAMPLE
If time was infinite, then it would have to go back an infinite amount of time. This means that not only is time going on forever in the future, it is going on backwards through the past further and further because there is no beginning and no beginning to ever stop time from going progressing backwards further and further.


THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE.

[makaveli121212]

i already did think about that, it isnt that humans cannot comprend infinty though, it is just non-existent and not possible

[Lupin_the_3rd]

or how about the fact that we think we know everything there is to know about the world around us... that's what was thought by scientists at the turn of the 19th century...

what we know today as fact could actually be a pile of bullshit

just look back a couple hundred years, see what they thought about our world

now imagine a couple hundred years from now...everything thought implausible could be a reality and so on...

what I'm trying to say is, as far as we know, we could all be wrong

[makaveli121212]

now that is the most intelligent thing i have heard you say in a long time...kudos...it's is obvious we dont know everything, however, many things we can now prove by facts; whereas in the past only 'theories' have been proven to be wrong...are facts are not wrong, but are theories may be...good point there lupin...one theory that could change the way we think is String Theory, check that out if you guys hadnt already

[Lupin_the_3rd]

but could these facts be caused by a lucky string of favorable variables not known to us that affect our physics and chemistry laws and so on..(i'm not saying you're wrong)

[Cenright]

The concept of infinity does exist. If it didn't, none of Calculus would exist because of the limits you do at the very beginning (or the end of Pre-Calc). The concept of infinity is still there; it still exists. We just can't fully comprehend it.

Time keeps going. No matter what, time keeps going.



-Edit-
Then again, time is relative to each and every person. Does that mean that if no-one existed that time would not exixt?

I feel this is a relevant question:
If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, did it really make a sound?

[Lupin_the_3rd]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TIME, IT IS A BENCHMARK MADE BY HUMANS TO DESCRIBE THINGS

[Anticrombie0909]

Yeah. Its hard to conceptualize something so broad and abstract, but think about it logically. Start with something easy, like counting. You can count to 10, to 100, to a googleplex. Theoretically, you could count to infinity, because there's no logical reason for there not to be an infinite number of 'things'.

[makaveli121212]

infinty exists theoretically, like in math, but in reality, with mass, and time, and what-have-you, and infinte quanity of something cannot exist

[Lupin_the_3rd]

except for the CONCEPT (seeing how time doesn't exist) of time, that will continue to go on forever, you don't need somebody saying, yeah time is still going...time is infinite, yet time is not real, so yeah you're right...infinity is theoretical, not tangible

[makaveli121212]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TIME, IT IS A BENCHMARK MADE BY HUMANS TO DESCRIBE THINGS

thats the most intellignt thing i heard you say since...well a few posts ago...couldnt agree more with that, very very good point...and no you cannot count to infinty, i mean that only proves that it doesnt exist...you count numbers, guess what infinty isnt a number it is an idea, a theory, that has been established...i mean if infinty does exist then the number right before infinty exists, well you tell me that number

[Lupin_the_3rd]

googleplex and one

[makaveli121212]

no, because the number after that is googleplex and 2...that doesnt equal infinty, or can you prove me wrong

[Lupin_the_3rd]

googleplex and 3, then (lol i'm just messin...





















it's googleplex and 4)

[makaveli121212]

i know, i know...but my post does prove a good point...

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TIME, IT IS A BENCHMARK MADE BY HUMANS TO DESCRIBE THINGS

thats the most intellignt thing i heard you say since...well a few posts ago...couldnt agree more with that, very very good point...and no you cannot count to infinty, i mean that only proves that it doesnt exist...you count numbers, guess what infinty isnt a number it is an idea, a theory, that has been established...i mean if infinty does exist then the number right before infinty exists, well you tell me that number