A big problem for Evolution?

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  • Chrissi
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2004
    • 3019

    #346
    Re: A big problem for Evolution?

    She seems to think it has proof, but she won't give us any.

    Same with you. You seem to think it has proof, but you were not giving any.

    It's the same thing really. Just saying "THERE'S PROOF, REALLY!" doesn't work.
    C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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    • Squeek
      let it snow~
      • Jan 2004
      • 14444

      #347
      Re: A big problem for Evolution?

      Originally posted by Squeek
      By the way, I feel the need to mention this anytime someone talks about Evolution. Evolution is a fact. It merely denotes that species have changed over time, which is incredibly obvious to even the youngest of children. The process by which it occurs is what is being debated. This is where Natural Selection and Intelligent Design come into play.

      The reason scientists continue to pursue the truth is because accepting Intelligent Design means there's no reason to study anything. Science is the study of things. To say "well, the solution is that it's something we can't understand no matter how hard we try" is against the rules of science. So, no matter what, this is going to stick around for a long, long time.
      Please, people. Read.

      Evolution is a fact. The theories out there explain how evolution occurred.

      Denying evolution is a fact would be the same as looking at an ammonite or trilobite fossil and telling me that the animal in that fossil still roams Earth to this day.

      And honestly, with the arguments I've seen in the last few pages of this thread, that's what you all sound like. Please keep your arguments logical. This is Critical Thinking, not "try to prove other people's religions wrong".

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      • Chrissi
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2004
        • 3019

        #348
        Re: A big problem for Evolution?

        Originally posted by Squeek
        Please, people. Read.

        Evolution is a fact. The theories out there explain how evolution occurred.

        Denying evolution is a fact would be the same as looking at an ammonite or trilobite fossil and telling me that the animal in that fossil still roams Earth to this day.

        And honestly, with the arguments I've seen in the last few pages of this thread, that's what you all sound like. Please keep your arguments logical. This is Critical Thinking, not "try to prove other people's religions wrong".
        Actually...

        Yes, evolution is fact, but not because of what you said. You can't go and say evolution is true because "lolol dinosaurs existed and they aren't here today, pwned". Alternate explanation: they died out. Extinction doesn't necessitate evolution. Catastrophes happen and things eat things and stuff dries up.
        C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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        • tsugomaru
          FFR Player
          • Aug 2004
          • 3962

          #349
          Re: A big problem for Evolution?

          Originally posted by the_unda_doggz
          Yes, you can prove SCIENTIFICALLY that evolution is true!

          Omg! AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
          the_unda_doggz, do you know how sick I feel from reading your posts? Very. Every single time I read Choco's posts, she's trying to prove to you in some small way that she might be right, but the only thing you've been doing to prove yourself right are your insults. I'll say it once again, your arguments are not based on facts of evolution. They are based on your faith in the evolution "theory" and you are no better than Choco. Show me one post where you prove your theory is right with a fact other than "fossils" and I'll drop everything I have against you.

          Of course, I'm not saying I don't believe in evolution because if anything, I'd be the first one to defend it.

          ~Tsugomaru
          Originally posted by Hiluluk
          WHEN do you think people die...?
          When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
          When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
          When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
          IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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          • the_unda_doggz
            Banned
            • Sep 2005
            • 643

            #350
            Re: A big problem for Evolution?

            Originally posted by tsugomaru
            Dear Tugz,
            I'm trying to put down yours posts because mine are more sophisticated even though I am messing with you just like you were messing with choca. Blah blah blah...

            ~Tsugomaru

            (-_-)

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            • banditcom
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2003
              • 6243

              #351
              Re: A big problem for Evolution?

              Long-ass thread.

              Thought I'd throw in that the word theory, when used in scientific terms, means it's "not an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from and/or is supported by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations that is predictive, logical and testable."

              That's one big thing Creationists (rofl) like to throw around. That it's "just a theory" as if it was a guess (which in fact is what creationism is as there is no evidence of it whatsoever).

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              • perkeyone
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2005
                • 240

                #352
                Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                actually i think that infinity over infinity makes one because as you aproch infinity... 1over 1 is 1, 2 over 2 is 1, 99999 over 99999 is 1 ...you know the rule that anything over infinity aproches zero and infinity over anything aproches infinity cancle each other out

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                • Chrissi
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 3019

                  #353
                  Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                  Originally posted by perkeyone
                  actually i think that infinity over infinity makes one because as you aproch infinity... 1over 1 is 1, 2 over 2 is 1, 99999 over 99999 is 1 ...you know the rule that anything over infinity aproches zero and infinity over anything aproches infinity cancle each other out
                  It might be one.... but the problem is that it wasn't infinity over infinity, it was infinity minus 2 over infinity.
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                  • RandomPscho
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 504

                    #354
                    Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                    Infinity - 2 = infinity

                    infinity/infinity = undefined.

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                    • EXTR3M3 DDR
                      FFR Player
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 4

                      #355
                      Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                      Originally posted by hairyhabenaro
                      From what I know, Random Mutation and Natural Selction are the backbone of the evolution "fact".
                      I found this site that seems to clearly disprove the commonly accepted idea that random mutations and natural selection are driving evolution. I'm no expert on the subject but I am skeptical. I was wondering if anyone who knows more then me on this subject can find any holes in this reasoning, or is it correct. I'm still undecided so I'd appreciate your criticism and opinions.

                      http://www.randommutation.com/darwinianevolution.htm
                      I am a Christian, and I believe that this universe was created by God, and there is scientific evidence behind this. Scientists have found fish fossils on the top of Mount Everest. The only explanation for that is the Flood that occured in Genesis. And if evolution is real, then why aren't we still evolving?
                      Evolution is not real. Just look at the human body. It's extremely complex. Why would anybody believe that evolution created us?
                      I get up at six in the morning just so I can go to my school's fitness center to play DDR. In your face.

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                      • RandomPscho
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 504

                        #356
                        Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                        Ever thought the fossils on top of mount everest were there before the mountain?

                        And if evolution is real, then why aren't we still evolving?
                        Are you the exact same as either your mother or father? HELLO! Evolution at a small scale. And besides, new species are found all the time. Just recently a new big cat species was found. Humans have even evolved over the past thousand years, getting taller. I also hate it when people say "oh we are too complex for evolution to have happened." Look at fossils, they get progressively more advanced and diverse through time.


                        EVOLUTION HAPPENS.

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                        • tsugomaru
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 3962

                          #357
                          Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                          Originally posted by perkeyone
                          actually i think that infinity over infinity makes one because as you aproch infinity... 1over 1 is 1, 2 over 2 is 1, 99999 over 99999 is 1 ...you know the rule that anything over infinity aproches zero and infinity over anything aproches infinity cancle each other out
                          The rule for infinity is once you give infinity a numerical value, it's no longer infinity.

                          ~Tsugomaru
                          Originally posted by Hiluluk
                          WHEN do you think people die...?
                          When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                          When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                          When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                          IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                          • Chocaholic
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 74

                            #358
                            Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                            Originally posted by perkeyone
                            tell me choco...do you wear your seat belt?
                            um......... DUH!
                            CHOCOLATE!!

                            LIVE like you where dieing,

                            WORK like you dont need the money,

                            LOVE like youve never been hurt.
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                            • perkeyone
                              FFR Player
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 240

                              #359
                              Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                              Originally posted by Chocaholic
                              um......... DUH!
                              you apparently did not read my next post

                              Originally posted by perkeyone
                              why would you need to wear it... if its your time to die and god wills it then you will die... why worry about your seat belt? youll go to heven aparently

                              DUH cuz youll die and that will be it end of story no happy ending


                              Originally posted by EXTR3M3 DDR
                              I am a Christian, and I believe that this universe was created by God, and there is scientific evidence behind this. Scientists have found fish fossils on the top of Mount Everest. The only explanation for that is the Flood that occured in Genesis. And if evolution is real, then why aren't we still evolving?
                              Evolution is not real. Just look at the human body. It's extremely complex. Why would anybody believe that evolution created us?
                              please forget every thing you have ever thought you knew about evolution and fossil records and start over

                              Originally posted by Chrissi
                              It might be one.... but the problem is that it wasn't infinity over infinity, it was infinity minus 2 over infinity.
                              oops i didnt read it right i guess
                              Last edited by perkeyone; 03-18-2007, 11:50 AM.

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                              • the_unda_doggz
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 643

                                #360
                                Re: A big problem for Evolution?

                                Originally posted by EXTR3M3 DDR
                                I am a Christian, and I believe that this universe was created by God, and there is scientific evidence behind this. Scientists have found fish fossils on the top of Mount Everest. The only explanation for that is the Flood that occured in Genesis. And if evolution is real, then why aren't we still evolving?
                                Evolution is not real. Just look at the human body. It's extremely complex. Why would anybody believe that evolution created us?
                                That is exactly why Christians don't want to believe that cavemen were real.
                                You Christians wants to think that we have always been this evolved.
                                And RandomPscho is right, we have been getting taller over the years, and we have skeletons to prove it.
                                If you search Google Images, you will see that skeletons from 1700 a.d. and before have been noticeably smaller than our skeletons today.
                                And for the fish skeletons on Mount Everest, do you think that Mount Everest has been that tall forever?
                                Where the hell do you think that islands, continents, volcanoes, and mountains come from?
                                Under the ocean.

                                idiot

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