A big problem for Evolution?

[the_unda_doggz]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

Kind of annoying how Christians shun you, look down on you, and think less of you because you're Athiest, eh?

We don't do any of that because they're Christian.

[Chrissi]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

Kind of annoying how Christians shun you, look down on you, and think less of you because you're Athiest, eh?

We don't do any of that because they're Christian.

Are you being sarcastic, or have you been zoned out the entire time you were posting in this thread directed at Chocoholic?

[the_unda_doggz]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic-atheist - you might think it's almost the same, but to me it's entirely different. It means that I accept the possibility that there may be a God - however, most evidence points to the contrary.

However, nobody can disprove the existence of God.

I also like to think that if God exists, They are so much more knowledgeable and superior to us that it is most humbling and most respectful to Them to accept that we are but puny humans, and cannot begin to comprehend the ideas or intent of God, nor Their place in how we came to be. I also seriously doubt that there is a religion on earth that actually comes close to what is really going on. Science is closer than any religion. And naturally so - science constantly seeks the truth, so there is no other rational thing to believe.

WIth my mathematical mind, I like to think of it this way: the number of possible religions is infinite. You can create any religion anytime you want based on anything you want. However, only one can be ultimately correct. So the chance of any one religion being correct is 1/oo (one over infinity), which approaches zero.

Anyway, to answer your question: how did I come to realize it? Hmmm, not sure. For awhile I thought I was an atheist, but as soon as I heard the word 'agnostic', I knew that was what I was.

Looking at all of your posts, I can see that you are very intelligent and I find everything you say very respectable.
I'm not one of those people who think that being athiest and being an agnostic athiest are the same, I understand it completely.
I have many friends who are open to the possibility of a God.
I like reading your posts, Chrissi. They make a lot of sense and are very easy to understand, while being quite intelligent at the same time.

(p.s. I didn't know that agnostic was a noun and adjective. Cool.)

[Chrissi]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

Looking at all of your posts, I can see that you are very intelligent and I find everything you say very respectable.
I'm not one of those people who think that being athiest and being an agnostic athiest are the same, I understand it completely.
I have many friends who are open to the possibility of a God.
I like reading your posts, Chrissi. They make a lot of sense and are very easy to understand, while being quite intelligent at the same time.

Well, thanks.

[perkeyone]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

hahaha mabey there is a tiny chance, like you said aproching zero%, that ther is a god.... there i said it... but the litteral interperatation of christianity in particular is wrong.... if there is a god... it is not the one the bible talks about

[Chrissi]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

hahaha mabey there is a tiny chance, like you said aproching zero%, that ther is a god.... there i said it... but the litteral interperatation of christianity in particular is wrong.... if there is a god... it is not the one the bible talks about

I didn't say there is a chance approaching zero that there is a God. Most religions involve a God of some type, so if you used my equation, the chance of there being a God is probably oo-2/oo..... which is undefined (or at least, personally, I don't know how to define it. Possibly somebody with more math skills could define it). Which means we can't know! Yay!

But in general I agree.

[the_unda_doggz]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

Hmm, still very skeptical about there being a God, and I am very stubborn about the situation.
I will never believe that there is a God. Lol, kinda ****ed up, eh?

Well, thanks.

Lol, no problem.

[perkeyone]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

well anything over infinity makes an infitly small fraction which aproches zero ya know?

[Chrissi]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

Hmm, still very skeptical about there being a God, and I am very stubborn about the situation.
I will never believe that there is a God. Lol, kinda ****ed up, eh?

No not really.

I'm not trying to be mean here, but to me, it sounds like you are exactly like the Christians just on the other side. You don't seem to understand the reasoning behind your choice - it seems to be socially guided. You don't seem to hold the ability to reason why you are an atheist, but it just "makes sense" to you and everything else sounds stupid.

Sound right? If not, don't worry, I don't mean to offend, this is just my observation.

well anything over infinity makes an infitly small fraction which aproches zero ya know?

Infinity over infinity is a special case. You can't simply use that rule. You have clashing rules here. For example, whenever you see infinity in the TOP of a fraction, the rule is, that fraction is equal to infinity.

There are a ton of rules to follow if you see infinity in the top AND the bottom. I used to know how to deal with this stuff but these days I've lost it. I don't take math anymore.

[the_unda_doggz]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

Are you being sarcastic, or have you been zoned out the entire time you were posting in this thread directed at Chocoholic?

I never said any of that because she was Christian, but what she was saying and how she believed it was so true. I would never say anything bad about someone just becuase of their religion.

[Chrissi]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

I never said any of that because she was Christian, but what she was saying and how she believed it was so true. I would never say anything bad about someone just becuase of their religion.

:\ What did you expect from her?

[the_unda_doggz]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

No not really.

I'm not trying to be mean here, but to me, it sounds like you are exactly like the Christians just on the other side. You don't seem to understand the reasoning behind your choice - it seems to be socially guided. You don't seem to hold the ability to reason why you are an atheist, but it just "makes sense" to you and everything else sounds stupid.

Sound right? If not, don't worry, I don't mean to offend, this is just my observation.

And a wise observation it is, but the reason I believe that there is no God so much is the scientific evidence behind evolutionism. (Maybe that is socially guided?)

[the_unda_doggz]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

(Sorry for the double post here)

:\ What did you expect from her?

I dunno, I thought since this was the Critical Thinking section of the forum, that she'd actually post stuff that makes sense and has proof?

[Chrissi]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

(Sorry for the double post here)




I dunno, I thought since this was the Critical Thinking section of the forum, that she'd actually post stuff that makes sense and has proof?

I would be happier if you would do the same. It would make "our side" look better...

[the_unda_doggz]

Re: A big problem for Evolution?

Evolution has no proof? o_O
Isn't Evolution our side?

I meant what she was trying to prove. (Creastionism)
It has no proof.