as far as i'm concerned, white people should not use that word, no matter what the circumstance.
what do you guys think?
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as far as i'm concerned, white people should not use that word, no matter what the circumstance.
what do you guys think?
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Re: racism
Old and load of crap.
Racism is like a swear word- it means nothing until people lend it meaning.
It's obvious that the teacher meant nothing harmful with the word whatsoever. But that hypocrite of a black kid, who most likely refers to himself as a ****** daily, flips **** when the white guy says it.
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Now who made the term become the symbol of racism to begin with? My point exactly.
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Re: racism
In my personal opinion I think the kid did say the "N" word. I think his friends deny it to get at a teacher. Even though the teacher sounded so stupid when quoting how some of the students talk he had a point. I just think the teacher didn't notice the line he was crossing. I think the kid knows full well the teacher didn't have any racist meaning behind what he said, he just saw an excuse to argue.Originally posted by TibsComment
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Re: racism
Wrong. In order for a word to be offensive, someone (anyone) has to take offense to it. That's it. After that point, the word is offensive, regardless of how harmless it seems. It doesn't matter how many people it offends (though how much you watch yourself when saying that word is a function of that number of such people), either, as something that's offensive to millions is just as offensive as something that offends a dozen.
Was that word used in a deliberately offensive context in that video? No, but since that kid got offended, the word is CLEARLY offensive. What defines whether or not something is offensive? Whether or not somebody gets offended by it.
You don't have to agree with other people on the issue, but to say something's not offensive just because you don't think it is self-aggrandizing and asinine.
--Guido
Originally posted by GrandiagodComment
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Re: racism
Anti is right here. It's the listener that applies an offensive meaning to it. Because of that, it's the listener's fault that they're offended.
If I say "that firetruck is red" and someone is offended by it, does that make me a racist?
ps 1st amendment lolz
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Re: racism
hey guys
when i say the word "phroghratzipon" it means complete waste of human life that should likely go kill themselves and also takes a shot at your sex, race, and religion
your all phroghratzipons
Now, that is likely much worse than saying the "n-word", and yet I will not get banned for it because no one will take it offensively. Yet, for some reason, a word with the root "black" is considered one of the most lowdown things you can say about a person.
Summary: We give words meaning. They only carry as much power as we choose to give them. Therefore, anyone being offended by six letters in a certain order are being offended purely by their choice.
It's hard to tell what really happened in the linked video, so I really can't choose a side in that case. The fact that teacher does seems pretty idiotic and the kid does seem pretty "oops I did something wrong better act really angelic and I'll get my way here" doesn't help things.Comment
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Doesn't change the fact that what you said was offensive. Of course it's the offended's fault that he gets offended; that's nothing more than a truism, Afro.
EDIT:Again, the same truism.Originally posted by Tokzic
As for the "we give words meaning" comment, well, yeah, that's very true, and once society as a whole doesn't give such words meaning anymore we won't have any reason for this discussion. The problem: that word is going to have meaning for a loooong time to come, and until it doesn't, it'll still be an offensive word. If you want to take your issue up with someone, do it with society.
--Guido
Last edited by GuidoHunter; 10-2-2006, 05:22 PM.
Originally posted by GrandiagodComment
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Re: racism
races can discriminate against themselves
except for whites because then it would be offensive
and the video is so outrageous
"i like to add the h at the end" "african american please" "can ya lend an african american a pencil"
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Re: racism
it depends on how its used.
if a white friend says "whats up my {censored}?" then its alright because its used in a friendly manner.
if a white guy u dont know says "get the {censored} away from me you dirty {censored}," then its used in a disrespectful manner that requires the said person to get his arse kicked.
use small words when you talk **** about me, because you'll be eating them later
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Re: racism
Both of which are legally required to come with warnings for such language (Parental Advisories for music albums and R ratings for movies).
I think a lot of people in this topic (and a lot of people that were involved in this issue in general) are a direct result of something being offensive is that something must be done about it. In the case of the "phroghratzipon" example, it may be offensive is someone takes offense to it, sure, but that doesn't necessarily dictate that Synth or the government (depending on the ruling body you're talking about) has to do something about it. Of course, they don't have to do anything about the use of the N-word either, but they choose to, for reasons that should at least be understandable to any rational human being.
It may be an unfair double standard, but them's the breaks. The world isn't fair.
However, if it makes you feel any better, SmackDown!'s Theodore Long said "cracka" on air (either this year or last) and the WWE penalized him for it. Lord only knows why UPN let that one slip through the cracks of editing, but that's another discussion entirely.
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