The Universe Theory

[GuidoHunter]

Masamura: the film you're probably talking about is Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe" in the form of his PBS special. It's largely about string theory, but you didn't listen too well. In order to work, the universe needs to have fourteen dimensions, ten more than we have.

@Ultima: No. The universe, travelling NEAR the speed of light, would not observe the effects of time dilation. An outside observer would, but the universe, by definition, doesn't have an outside.

--Guido

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[chuandyou]

Well none of our theroies could be true. We don't know nearly enough information aboutt he universe to make a 100% sure statement.

Which is why they're theories, dumb [censored four letter word]

[jewpinthethird]

Well none of our theroies could be true. We don't know nearly enough information aboutt he universe to make a 100% sure statement.

Which is why they're theories, dumb [censored four letter word]

No, they are theories because it can not be recreated in an expirement and thus proven as fact. That's why gravity is still considered a theory.

[stlunatic0124]

Well none of our theroies could be true. We don't know nearly enough information aboutt he universe to make a 100% sure statement.

Which is why they're theories, dumb [censored four letter word]

No, they are theories because it can not be recreated in an expirement and thus proven as fact. That's why gravity is still considered a theory.

Bent over jewpin's knee.

[180digi]

1st and 2nd dimensions: width and height
3rd dimension: depth
4th dimension: Time
5th Dimension: 60s rock and roll.

[chickendude]

Most things in science can't be proven to be true 100% of the time
The best we do is to show that what we say happens 99.99% or that it happens to a certain degree of accuracy, but even our best theories, we can never be sure that they are 100% correct.

There is only one thing in the universe that knows the laws for sure
*drumroll*
The FSM!!

So instead of trying to observe data and things, we must learn to think like the FSM would, bring our minds together.
Remember, the FSM knows all

[BloodRush]

"If god is all powerful, he can create a rock so big that even He himself can not lift it. However, if He can't lift it, He is not all powerful and if He can lift it, He cannot make a rock big enough so again He is not all powerful."

[Jam930]

He can't create a rock that's so heavy he can't lift it, you know why?
Because he's all powerful.

Try asking God to create a totally new color.

We wouldn't get it.


I think any theory where the universe is a shape is stupid because... it just is. Why would it be a shape?

And if it is, what's beyond the shape? outside it? Isn't the point of defining the universe figuring out how there can be an infinite amount of space and not just giving up and saying it's some shape.

As for expanding and whatever... same thing.

Why would the universe have limits or form? It just doesn't make sense.

I think the universe is just what we see. An infinite amount of space in all directions... we're used to everything being so finite on earth... and I think that's messing with our judgement or something.

[chickendude]

The universe can be finite but also extending forever in each dimension
we are too n00bish/threedimensional to understand it
It is a theory floating around
The universe could be finite but without any edges, it just wraps around, curves to meet itself
string theory is like, theres a bunch of small curled up dimensions (what at least 9 of them)
but three of them expanded to be the billions of lightyears we now know

BUT they are still curled up, AKA round

think of the analogy of 2d to 3d
what if we were 2d folks who lived on the surface of an orange. we couldnt go towards the center of the orange, because we were only 2 D, but we could go around in circles, but theres no edge, yet its finite

we just dont have enough dimensions to understand

Remember, its just a theory, string theory

[rockinwithkiss]

If the universe curves around to meet itself, does that mean that there's a possibility of another big bang?

[chickendude]

basically, yeah
like someone says, the universe could eventually stop expanding and the three dimensions could contract back, and bang again
or it could just keep getting bigger
Its not that easy to figure out

[Reach]

The universe is finite. It had a beginning, it has an end. It's more of an inflation than a bang if you ask me. The energy is rushing away from eachother in all directions fillin gup space with particles. It is just expanding faster than we could possibly travel, so we can't escape it, but it's still finite.

[chickendude]

its not that itss expanding fast so we cant escape it
we cant escape it because we dont have enough dimensions

think of the analogy with the orange
we are all 2D ants on the orange
we cant say the orange is 3D from direct evidence, but we can reason it is by how there are no edges but the space is finite
Now just say the orange is getting bigger, Its growing, the space is getting bigger, but there still arent any edges, and theres no point in trying to say we cant escape it, because we are only 2D so we cant get off.
Basically all that happens, is that the space between things increases, things get farther apart, Hubble observed this

yeah so now make us 3D, and the universe like a 4D orange that is expanding, a very big 4D orange
we cant percieve the universe fully, but we can discover its effects through indirect observations, like what hubble saw

[Reach]

Well I know what hubble observed, and I've read the basics on string theory. I am only educated to highschool level outside of my own research We don't have enough dimensions to escape it? XD Why would dimensions effect it? That's hard to grasp. The 4th dimension is time is it not? Are you saying like, space is curved or whatever, so, it bends and, we can't escape it because we've just bent around it? I don't know, that ant farm analogy has holes in it. The ants are on the orange. We are in the universe. And if the ants were in the orange they would have to eat through teh peel.

[The_Q]

That's why gravity is still considered a theory.

Law of Gravity?

THEORY of Evolution.

Thank you.

Q