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  • stargroup
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2007
    • 974

    #61
    Re: religion/science

    Originally posted by bLasTamos
    Even science can't prove there is no god, since science can't explain everything.
    Okay some parts of the bible have already been proven to be false, mainly genesis and some more of the Old Testament, but you can't really explain the true origin of the universe. It's just not possible. Even if most of the existing theories were true, you wouldn't know what originated it or even if there was something else before.
    Anyway, statements like "anyone who believes in god must be a complete ignorant" actually prove the ignorance of the poster, because god is whatever you want it to be. That's why they call it religions based on faith. You can have a complete understanding of science and still believe in god. Some god that makes sense. Science itself doesn't prove there is no god.
    Thank you.

    This is why the logic goes around in circles and no one gets anywhere.

    This is also why debating the existence of God is stupid. Instead, you guys should be respecting both science and religion, and focusing on how they affect our daily lives.

    Science is based off evidence, and it is what we use in order to improve our understanding of the universe, allowing us to harness technology, etc. Religion is based of faith, and helps us understand other people better, and provide a framework of morals for society. Needless to say, these are completely separate entities that should not ever be combined. One strengthens a community socially, the other intellectually.

    Although certain people who believe in God may be instilling some beliefs that could be refuted by science in other people, the important thing is that most of these people are also instilling a way of life on the people that allows them to bring each other closer together. How often, in the midst of all the chaos today, do you see people gather together the way they do at church, socializing, having fun, and bettering the community in a peaceful manner?

    I'm absolutely tired of people going back and forth with all this religion/science nonsense. I'm absolutely tired of it. People who continuously debate over such a dumb issue really annoy me. For once, people, grow up and learn to embrace life.
    (´・ω・`)

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    • Artic_counter
      FFR Veteran
      • Jan 2007
      • 1002

      #62
      Re: religion/science

      Originally posted by bLasTamos
      Even science can't prove there is no god, since science can't explain everything.
      Okay some parts of the bible have already been proven to be false, mainly genesis and some more of the Old Testament, but you can't really explain the true origin of the universe. It's just not possible. Even if most of the existing theories were true, you wouldn't know what originated it or even if there was something else before.
      Anyway, statements like "anyone who believes in god must be a complete ignorant" actually prove the ignorance of the poster, because god is whatever you want it to be. That's why they call it religions based on faith. You can have a complete understanding of science and still believe in god. Some god that makes sense. Science itself doesn't prove there is no god.

      Edit: also the first vid on the OP is hillarious. Wasted 5 minutes of my life reading fallacies.
      Saying that something exist just because it never have been proven wrong is worth 0 as an argument. If I remember correctly, that's called a sophism
      Last edited by Artic_counter; 11-7-2009, 08:44 PM.


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      • stargroup
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2007
        • 974

        #63
        Re: religion/science

        Originally posted by Artic_counter
        Saying that something exist just because it never have been prooven wrong is worth 0 as an argument. If I remember correctly, that's called a sophism
        can someone please for the love of god explain to me why people are so stupid
        (´・ω・`)

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        • A2P
          FFR Veteran
          • Apr 2009
          • 3127

          #64
          Re: religion/science

          prooven

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          • Artic_counter
            FFR Veteran
            • Jan 2007
            • 1002

            #65
            Re: religion/science

            Originally posted by A2P
            prooven
            English not being my native language, I guess you can consider letting these kind of mistakes pass.


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            • Grandiagod
              FFR Player
              • Jul 2004
              • 6122

              #66
              Re: religion/science

              Originally posted by Artic_counter
              English ain't being my native language, I guess you can consider letting these kind of mistakes pass.
              Is this intentional sarcasm?
              He who angers you conquers you. ~Elizabeth Kenny

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              • ItIsAMystery
                FFR Player
                • Oct 2009
                • 49

                #67
                Re: religion/science

                Originally posted by stargroup
                Thank you.

                This is why the logic goes around in circles and no one gets anywhere.

                This is also why debating the existence of God is stupid. Instead, you guys should be respecting both science and religion, and focusing on how they affect our daily lives.

                Science is based off evidence, and it is what we use in order to improve our understanding of the universe, allowing us to harness technology, etc. Religion is based of faith, and helps us understand other people better, and provide a framework of morals for society. Needless to say, these are completely separate entities that should not ever be combined. One strengthens a community socially, the other intellectually.

                Although certain people who believe in God may be instilling some beliefs that could be refuted by science in other people, the important thing is that most of these people are also instilling a way of life on the people that allows them to bring each other closer together. How often, in the midst of all the chaos today, do you see people gather together the way they do at church, socializing, having fun, and bettering the community in a peaceful manner?

                I'm absolutely tired of people going back and forth with all this religion/science nonsense. I'm absolutely tired of it. People who continuously debate over such a dumb issue really annoy me. For once, people, grow up and learn to embrace life.
                Typical argument that is also bull****. Who cares if religion is a moderating influence or helps some people out in their lives? Doesn't make it true. Need I not mention all the negative things it has caused, either.

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                • A2P
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 3127

                  #68
                  Re: religion/science

                  yeah youre a troll

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                  • A2P
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 3127

                    #69
                    Re: religion/science

                    like not even a funny troll
                    just a troll thats mad at the world and who no one likes anyway

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                    • ItIsAMystery
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 49

                      #70
                      Re: religion/science

                      Originally posted by bLasTamos
                      Even science can't prove there is no god, since science can't explain everything.
                      Okay some parts of the bible have already been proven to be false, mainly genesis and some more of the Old Testament, but you can't really explain the true origin of the universe. It's just not possible. Even if most of the existing theories were true, you wouldn't know what originated it or even if there was something else before.
                      Anyway, statements like "anyone who believes in god must be a complete ignorant" actually prove the ignorance of the poster, because god is whatever you want it to be. That's why they call it religions based on faith. You can have a complete understanding of science and still believe in god. Some god that makes sense. Science itself doesn't prove there is no god.

                      Edit: also the first vid on the OP is hillarious. Wasted 5 minutes of my life reading fallacies.
                      It is impossible to disprove a God. But like I said, most people operate on the coin example I provided earlier.

                      Science cannot ever hope to explain everything, but there's a point where you'd have to be stupid to ignore the opposing evidence. Everyone I know who actually understands the science does not believe in God. Why? Because science kicks God in the nuts, hard, repeatedly. Why spit in the face of Occam's Razor and introduce the variable of God into everything, which would require a MAMMOTH explanation in conjunction with all that we know?

                      tldr theists are retarded pce

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                      • Artic_counter
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1002

                        #71
                        Re: religion/science

                        Originally posted by Grandiagod
                        Is this intentional sarcasm?
                        I wasn't being sarcastic. I do not master the language enough to be able to easily understand it when written and to be using it.


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                        • Izzy
                          Snek
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 9195

                          #72
                          Re: religion/science

                          Originally posted by A2P
                          yeah youre a troll
                          And you're to much of a pussy to give your opinion in fear of being opposed.

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                          • stargroup
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 974

                            #73
                            Re: religion/science

                            Originally posted by ItIsAMystery
                            Typical argument that is also bull****. Who cares if religion is a moderating influence or helps some people out in their lives? Doesn't make it true. Need I not mention all the negative things it has caused, either.
                            rofl yes your argument is sooo much more life-fulfilling and mature. not to mention adding the tons of fallacies to your statement it's just like a bunch of coconuts on a sundae isn't it

                            Originally posted by ItIsAMystery
                            It is impossible to disprove a God. But like I said, most people operate on the coin example I provided earlier.

                            Science cannot ever hope to explain everything, but there's a point where you'd have to be stupid to ignore the opposing evidence. Everyone I know who actually understands the science does not believe in God. Why? Because science kicks God in the nuts, hard, repeatedly. Why spit in the face of Occam's Razor and introduce the variable of God into everything, which would require a MAMMOTH explanation in conjunction with all that we know?

                            tldr theists are retarded pce
                            not only did you contradict yourself because logic happens to work that way when you're dealing with god but you also show the maturity and intelligence of a 9 year old. I know a bunch of kids who are 10 years old that have better thought-out ideals than you
                            (´・ω・`)

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                            • Izzy
                              Snek
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 9195

                              #74
                              Re: religion/science

                              Stargroup, you can't argue a statement by saying "no, you're wrong".

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                              • A2P
                                FFR Veteran
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 3127

                                #75
                                Re: religion/science

                                Originally posted by Izzy
                                And you're to much of a pussy to give your opinion in fear of being opposed.
                                I stated my opinion bro

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