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  • HighAndr0id
    FFR Player
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2008
    • 1405

    #46
    Re: IQ

    took the test reach posted, scored 120 on first attempt. On subsequent lol takes, i got 79 answering all D, and 81 answering all F

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    • Tps222
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2004
      • 6168

      #47
      Re: IQ

      I got a 115 on the test Reach posted. Sounds about right to me, but I haven't been in school or done anything too academic or taxing on my brain in a few months. I'm not going to use this as a scapegoat, but I know there was some pattern recognition in there that I know I'd be able to solve 5 months ago, but I just couldn't put my finger on it this time.

      I assume it's possible to sharpen or slightly lose your ability to do well on these tests from the amount and extent you process and complete complex tasks during a period of time. Is there any truth to that, or am I just spewing nonsense?

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      • OrganisM
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2006
        • 2644

        #48
        Re: IQ

        As far as I understand it, you can most definitely train yourself in these exercises and make the process more efficient, thereby changing the answers you give and therefore changing your IQ. Does that mean you are more intelligent simply because you trained yourself to take a test more efficiently? Also, many articles seem to say that one's mood has a lot to do with how well they do on the test. Do you become more or less intelligent depending on your mood?

        /shrug, I'm no expert.
        .

        Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
        "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
        because the venom gets into the blood stream which
        spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
        changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

        Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


        Originally Posted by
        MrRubix[link]:
        "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

        Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
        "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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        • Tps222
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2004
          • 6168

          #49
          Re: IQ

          I won't touch on the first half of your post, but as far as mood affecting results, I feel as if that is a person to person event. Even if I'm in a depressed mood, personally I can still do just as well on an exam as if I were content, because I know how to handle the relationship between my mood and my test taking abilities. On the other side of things, I know people who do very well on exams when they are in a good mood, but absolutely bomb them when they are upset. I realize this is anecdotal and doesn't draw from a huge pool of examples, but I really don't think you can draw an over-arcing conclusion based on mood.

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          • Tokzic
            FFR Player
            • May 2005
            • 6878

            #50
            Re: IQ

            118 on reach's

            also that's on four hours of sleep

            Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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            • Reach
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jun 2003
              • 7471

              #51
              Re: IQ

              Originally posted by Tps222
              I got a 115 on the test Reach posted. Sounds about right to me, but I haven't been in school or done anything too academic or taxing on my brain in a few months. I'm not going to use this as a scapegoat, but I know there was some pattern recognition in there that I know I'd be able to solve 5 months ago, but I just couldn't put my finger on it this time.

              I assume it's possible to sharpen or slightly lose your ability to do well on these tests from the amount and extent you process and complete complex tasks during a period of time. Is there any truth to that, or am I just spewing nonsense?
              IQ stays relatively stable throughout the lifespan, but we need to consider what relatively means. As I pointed out earlier, scores have standard errors, and they're usually about 14-16 points. As such, let's say your actual 'intelligence' was 115 - from here your measured score could vary between 108-122.

              It is generally accepted that IQ varies depending on variables other than intelligence, so no, you're not spewing just nonsense. For example, if you're overly tired, hungry, grumpy and distracted, you're probably going to fall closer to 108. Well rested, energetic, concentrated and in a good mood? Probably closer to 122.

              However, IQ tests are generally resistant to training. Some studies have addressed training directly. Gains of 15 points have been seen in certain individuals, but if they stop training their scores fall back down to what they originally were. Staying in academia probably does help keep your IQ score at it's highest, but it's not likely to radically change it or anything along those lines.


              It's best to think of it this way:

              An IQ test is a snapshot of your intelligence, kind of like a photograph is a snapshot of what you look like. Yes, you can go out of your way to change the way you look (Hair products, makeup, getting fat etc), but fundamentally you don't change much and will always be the same (Genes for hair, skeletal structure, height etc).


              I won't touch on the first half of your post, but as far as mood affecting results, I feel as if that is a person to person event. Even if I'm in a depressed mood, personally I can still do just as well on an exam as if I were content, because I know how to handle the relationship between my mood and my test taking abilities. On the other side of things, I know people who do very well on exams when they are in a good mood, but absolutely bomb them when they are upset. I realize this is anecdotal and doesn't draw from a huge pool of examples, but I really don't think you can draw an over-arcing conclusion based on mood.

              Your ability is constant regardless of how you feel, how much you've slept etc. However, it can change your score in certain individuals because it interferes with their ability to concentrate on the material and do their best. Intelligence is, after all, your cognitive capacity for complexity. If you're not trying, we have a problem.

              Not that people can just use not trying as an excuse. Many people use it as an excuse for the fact they lack ability to solve the problems in the first place. As such, their scores are indicative of a trend that is intrinsic to their life, their inability to get good jobs, do well in school, not commit crime, not go on welfare...etc.

              This is where administration from a psychologist can help - it's easy to differentiate between someone with issues unrelated to intelligence and...just plain lack of intelligence.
              Last edited by Reach; 03-2-2009, 06:52 PM.

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              • jchinzilla
                i like cheese
                • Dec 2005
                • 2106

                #52
                Re: IQ

                i just got pissed off half way through http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf and hit "send"
                those puzzle pattern problem things are pretty uncool.

                oh yeah and it says i have an iq of 100 lol (50% of my answers were blank)

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                • robertsona
                  missa in h-moll
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 3997

                  #53
                  Re: IQ

                  Originally posted by jchinzilla
                  i just got pissed off half way through http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf and hit "send"
                  those puzzle pattern problem things are pretty uncool.

                  oh yeah and it says i have an iq of 100 lol (50% of my answers were blank)
                  exactly this

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                  • BARMK_RULEZ
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 4

                    #54
                    Re: IQ

                    137

                    15 years old

                    :P

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                    • Reach
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 7471

                      #55
                      Re: IQ

                      Originally posted by jchinzilla
                      i just got pissed off half way through http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf and hit "send"
                      those puzzle pattern problem things are pretty uncool.

                      oh yeah and it says i have an iq of 100 lol (50% of my answers were blank)
                      Well, if you don't finish, you won't get an accurate score. They might be 'uncool', but they're highly g-loaded (that is, if you're good at them, you're most definitely good at just about every mental task).

                      I hope you don't have the same mentality when it comes to, say, doing your homework, or showing up at work on time. Those things are uncool too, but with the same attitude you'll probably end up average everywhere, despite how smart you might be >_>


                      I recommend trying again when you actually feel up to finishing it. Or not, if you just don't care.

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                      • OrganisM
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2644

                        #56
                        Re: IQ

                        Wait, I'd read that lack of sleep directly affects your ability to function.. your cognitive abilities included. Sleep deprivation can do a lot of things to a person, unless I'm mistaken.

                        And I'd explain why I don't have the patience to finish it, but it'd just sound like an excuse, so, no good.
                        .

                        Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                        "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                        because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                        spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                        changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                        Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                        Originally Posted by
                        MrRubix[link]:
                        "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                        Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                        "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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                        • robertsona
                          missa in h-moll
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3997

                          #57
                          Re: IQ

                          Originally posted by BARMK_RULEZ
                          137

                          15 years old

                          :P
                          doesn't age not have an effect on IQ?

                          so yeah

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                          • Reach
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 7471

                            #58
                            Re: IQ

                            Originally posted by OrganisM
                            Wait, I'd read that lack of sleep directly affects your ability to function.. your cognitive abilities included. Sleep deprivation can do a lot of things to a person, unless I'm mistaken.
                            The research here gets iffy. There's actually a lot of evidence to suggest it has no effect on cognitive function, while other evidence suggests it does.

                            To avoid an incredibly complicated answer to why this is, I'll just say that it depends.

                            As such, you shouldn't take an IQ test if you're tired. That goes for any test. It could lower your performance.

                            doesn't age not have an effect on IQ?

                            so yeah
                            It doesn't on this test unless you're under the age of 16 or ...old. People under 16 can't take this test, and this test will underestimate old peoples IQ.


                            However, 137 isn't a possible score on this test, as far as I know, so it's not like it matters because he lied. Haha.


                            And I'd explain why I don't have the patience to finish it, but it'd just sound like an excuse, so, no good.
                            Just don't take it seriously then. It's not like I care what your score is.

                            The score is for your knowledge only. If you don't want to finish it, then don't. If this was a professionally administered test, things would be different, but it's not so >_> It's a free test that is reasonably accurate if you choose to finish it.


                            I know the first time I took it I didn't finish it. Wasn't in the mood. Decided to finish it at another time when I was.
                            Last edited by Reach; 03-2-2009, 07:17 PM.

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                            • cry4eternity
                              ~ added for cuteness
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 979

                              #59
                              Re: IQ

                              I actually saw a professional for IQ testing back in elementary school after they moved me up a grade. My parents tell me I was "off the charts," topping out the test that went up to 150. I've taken numerous online IQ tests since then resulting in scores ranging from 130's to 150's, including 144 on Facebook's "IQ Test" application.

                              Shortly after this professional test, my parents pulled me out and started homeschooling me. I was homeschooled for all of 4th, 5th, and 6th grade. By 7th grade, they were so sick of me that they reinstated me in public school. Since then I strongly feel I have lost mental ability, and I don't even mean that as a joke.

                              It is my belief that IQ scores can be a good general indicator of mental ability, but are too inconsistent to be conclusive beyond a 15-point margin or so.

                              I'm retired

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                              • OrganisM
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2644

                                #60
                                Re: IQ

                                As a kid my academic performance was at odds with my testing results; I lacked the discipline to do much of anything, so even though I kept getting away with things, I didn't get to reap any of the benefits of my testing.

                                Then a few years ago I found out that I'm not a good-for-nothing lazy piece of ****, and perhaps instead of imagining I'm imagining things, perhaps a few disorders could actually account for many of my difficulties.
                                .

                                Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                                "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                                because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                                spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                                changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                                Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                                Originally Posted by
                                MrRubix[link]:
                                "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                                Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                                "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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