Thoughts on suicide

[Laharl]

I think some of y'all don't understand what it's like to really be at the point to want to kill yourself.

To this day, I will and cannot sit by as anyone, whether I even like them or not, contemplates in all honestly suicide. I had seen lots of other people go through the same feelings I had while I was going through shit myself, and I had always told myself that I could help them if I finally had that friend I'd searched my life for.

Now, I have some.

And now I can help.

I don't want anyone else to have to wait as long as I did, pleaing day in and day out for someone to give a flying fuck. No one deserves that hell, even me.
(And anyone that really knows me know I still suffer a severe lack of self-esteem, so that last statement would have some meaning to it.)

So, you know what? Maybe it's not a good idea to make a general thread about it, because the majority of the other people that have posted so far will just bring you down further. Come to the caring ones through PMs or something if you're really serious.

[Falcon]

Come to the caring ones through PMs or something if you're really serious.

count me in.

[87x]

I think some of y'all don't understand what it's like to really be at the point to want to kill yourself. Laharl

You can't say that to me.. my brother in middle school tried to kill himself.. it didn't work.. it doesn't get any closer to home than your own family.. And now.. he's more strong willed against it than I am.. People who say that you don't know what they have been through is a crock of shit.. everyone basically goes through the same thing in there life..

Elementry school: Got some friends...not real friends just people you play with..
Middle school: You get made fun of constatly.. Worst years of most peoples lifes come from middle school
High school 9 - 10: people start to mature, and start not caring about what you look like, and more about how you act..
" " 11 - 12: Nobody cares.. everyone is just trying to get out of school....

Then adult life... 1)Get a job.. do something.. your problems are solved.. 2)get a cheap ass apartment.. 3)work the measly job you have.. 4)work your way up the ranks.. 5)get promoted... 5)make more money.. 6)stay in shitty apartment until you are 100% sure you can move into a mediocre apartment and not be in debt forever.. follow steps 4 - 6 and change mediocre to any other fancy word you like... then MAYBE... 7) find a girl... 8)get maried... 9) have kids (ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD THEM)...10) die... this is the regular life for anyone..

if you completed step 9.. congratulations.. you just populated the world with more people that have to go through the same shit you did..

Now.. EXCEPTIONS..
1)Child abuse- im not talking about that weak shit kids now a days call getting abused, like your mom smacked you for calling her a whore... thats not abuse.. yuor dad gives you a black eye on purpose is abuse.. getting knocked out while taking a beating and the parent continues to beat you is abuse.. Getting hit with foreign objects (IE. Broom, shoes, belts, switches (thin branches off bushes that have had all there limbs and leaves wiped off to make it go through the air so fast you can hear it breaking through the wind), etc... ) does not count as abuse, all the items on the list i have been beaten with atleast once in my life, UNLESS the parent over uses these items...

Thoughts: Even with child abuse and even with an Immature mind the worst thing you could do is kill yourself.. with all those numbers out there now-a-days and the kid having to go to school.. he could just as easily tell someone about the problem and have it solved within a 24 hour period.. So suicide doesn't work in that situation..

2)Sexual abuse: mostly for young girls.. but sometimes applies to boys.. if your being sexually abused, do the same thing for regular abuse.. jsut tell a teacher at school.. problem solved.. the mental scars should heal.. and if they don't.. you got problems.. girls who grow up to hate guys because of a sexual abuse thing when they were like 12 is dumb.. the other guys aren't your dad, your not being made to do anything, and if you had that problem when you were young and you didn't want it to happen again, you should think about hulking up/ learning some type of martial arts.. so you could just flew someone if they tried... Don't let a child hood experience be a controlling factor for the rest of your life.. it happened in the chold hood.. leave it there..

Thought: Explained above --^

3)... you know what.. there are no exceptions..

Nothing in your life is bad enough were the only answer is to kill yourself.. and i mean NOTHING..

[scorpio1690]

Nothing in your life is bad enough were the only answer is to kill yourself.. and i mean NOTHING..

What about lifetime improsonment? Sure, it's only 25 years on good behaviour and you can apply for parole. But what if you knew that for every day of those 25 years you'd get beaten or raped (ah!kinky jail bum sex GROSS). I'd sure as hell kill myself. And if you don't submit to it, the others will kill you. A guy didn't want to have anal sex with other men, so they broke off a broom handle, shoved the pointy end up the guys ass and killed him, went through his intestines and everything.

Or what if you have the death penalty? Some people decide to kill themselves because they're going to die anyways, why not?

[87x]

What about lifetime improsonment? Sure, it's only 25 years on good behaviour and you can apply for parole. But what if you knew that for every day of those 25 years you'd get beaten or raped (ah!kinky jail bum sex GROSS). I'd sure as hell kill myself. And if you don't submit to it, the others will kill you.

Do something about it.. they try to do something to you start whoopin that ass.. they beat you up.. rape you.. next day.. you do it again.. eventually you will break enough noses/jaws for them to not want to rape you anymore.. and if they kill you, you die... now they have to sit in jail forever with no chance for parole.. you got the last laugh.. AND you didn't go out like a punk..

Or what if you have the death penalty? Some people decide to kill themselves because they're going to die anyways, why not?

Idiots.. they miss out on the whole last meal thing.. just take your last meal, get leathal injection and die peacfully.. simple.. if your going to die.. might as well do it on a full stomach that way.. right before they kill you, you can shit yourself and know that someone has to clean it up.. and you get the last laugh again..

[scorpio1690]

Oooooh ya. Make people suffer at your expense seeing how you're dieing anyway eh? Nice. I chick did just kill herself in my school two days ago. Well, she either killed herself or her boyfriend killed her. She was one of my friends cousins. I know death isn't funny. But I guess it is now?

[SpookG]

For a period of my life I was actually suicidal, and almost did it several times.. It is something, like most things,people don't understand until they have been through it.. I suppose I should explain what was going on..

I had a "unique" medical condition, in that my left shoulder, dominant shoulder, was not functioning properly. They tried every test known to man and couldn't find anything wrong with me. I couldn't wave to someone without risking falling to my knees in pain. I had to take pain medication for an unknown reason for about two years, and it didn't even make the pain go away, but took it down from unbearable to manageable. Pills would wear off quicker and I had to keep taking more..

I was in a band then, and i couldn't play guitar.. I couldn't play sports, and sometimes I couldn't write or type, wash my hair, eat food, etc.. On top of that, my parents were going through a terrible divorce, no one really understood my situation, or let alone understood that I was seriously ill because I looked fine on the outside..

The pain ALWAYS got worse.. like you think "this is the worst it could do" and then it would hurt more, and all you can do is just lie there motionless and scream. My blood thinned from the pills, and I began to have an ulcer on top of it, but the doctors weren't sure what to do with me. Normal cuts bled like i ruptured arteries.. i was a mess..and I began to wonder, "why me? why can't i play ball like everyone else?" I sunk into a heavy depressive state because of it.

Chronic pain sucks, and after about a 2 and a half years it was hell waking up, because every time I did it would be because pain pills wore off and i was in terrible pain, and then having to go through a day knowing what could happen, and living in six hour intervals, which is when you would top off with pills again. Crippling pain,v eyes blurrin, teeth grinding, fist clenching pain.. you can't move.. and all you want to do is tear out the part of your body where it is coming from to make it better, or if nothing else, feel different.

you could never sit comfortably, not ever get it completely off your mind, not being able to remember what it feels like to not be in pain, or remember a time you weren't..


Talk all the shit you want, but if i had a friend in as much pain as me, or more, then I would be upset they killed themselves, but i wouldn't hold it against them..

and if you still got shit with it, then like i said, you just don't know what pain really is.

[87x]

No.. I understand you completely Spook.. my friend has almost the same problem with his stomach.. and he has actually confessed to me that after these doctor treaments that hes on if they can't find a cure or something to help it out, he will probably commit suicide.. now this is my best friend for well over 10 years... lives across the street from me.. and i see him almost evreyday.. thinking about losing him one day just about brings tears to my eyes.. ( for fact just typing that little bit did bring tears to my eyes).. but you know what he does about his problem??.. believes.. he has faith that there is a cure for it and he's going to stay alive and deal with it until they do find out what exactly he has wrong with him and how to fix it.. I may come off as im saying "Just go kill yourself", but im not.. im just stressing the fact that killing your self is a stupid thing to do.. and im sorry you had to go through all that, and assuming its better now, im glad for that also.. see you also believed.. you stuck through the pain and got past it.. you didn't kill yourself after a month or 2 months or even a year of pain.. for your tolerance and faith in yourself you were rewarded with life.. life without the pain... a good life with friends and people who care about you.. just to think.. if you would of commited suicide you would of died miserably.. but not you can rest in peace with your head high and a smile on your face knowing that you did the best with what you had and lead the best life you could have..

[SoujiroXx]

Look, there are many things in life that makes one want to kill themselves - Many. The thing is, those people who go to others and say they're going to are selfish, and full of shit. I read only about 85% of this thread, not seeing anything about anyone mentioning the thought of people that hmm, care about you? You know how many people you will hurt, for the rest of their lives, if you end your own? It's ridiculous, you many not care about yourself or the preservation of your well-being, but I'd suspect you'd at least give a damn about the probably countless people who care about you. People who come to me saying they're going to kill themselves are retards, I say do it. It's a slap in the face to them, and then I bitch at them not to waste my time with such sympathy-seeking bullshit. If you're in serious pain, and really want to end your life - you let everyone know your feelings, what pain you're in. This sudden "oh, xxxx killed themself" is retarded, the world is better off without people who are so inconsiderate.

-Soujiro

[Anticrombie0909]

Spook hit it. None of the people in this thread who are against suicide have obviously never been severely depressed. Depression...it isn't normal. It's not something you can go to sleep on, wake up the next day and feel better. You're only getting up day after day for the hope that tomorrow might be better. Or you're getting up because you don't want to upset your parents. But its nothing to do with enjoying life...the opposite, really. Life is hell, and only those who were suicidal at one point can understand that. It might be easy to stand on the sidelines and say "Suicide is bad under any circumstances" but there are some conditions where it might be your only way out.

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

This page has long responses

let me sum it up

No matter how bad life gets......suicide=bad

[87x]

but there are some conditions where it might be your only way out.

Name one..

[SoujiroXx]

None of the people in this thread who are against suicide have obviously never been severely depressed.

Why do you even waste your and ours with your assumptions? Do you know everyone personally on this thread, and know what they've gone through? I know damn well you have no idea who I am, so I'd suggest stopping with the inane assumptions that make you look far more ignorant than I'd hope you want to come off as.

[RedNovember]

terminal illness
the technical term for that is euthanasia...

[Anticrombie0909]

None of the people in this thread who are against suicide have obviously never been severely depressed.

Why do you even waste your and ours with your assumptions? Do you know everyone personally on this thread, and know what they've gone through? I know damn well you have no idea who I am, so I'd suggest stopping with the inane assumptions that make you look far more ignorant than I'd hope you want to come off as.

First off, that could be classified as a flame, and that could give me an excuse to flame you back. I'm not going to, but I'd like to state that for the record.

Second, I'm not wasting jack. All you people who are like 'Suicide is bad always no questions' probably never have been severely depressed, because standing from the sidelines it's easy to say that. But if you had experienced what its like to be so depressed that you just want to die, you'd understand a lot better.