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  • evilbutterfly
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2003
    • 5784

    #31
    RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

    Warnings should be handed out if we troll a topic too much.
    YES.

    And some people are attacked for bad reasoning. Lots of people you guys didn't even take the time to get to know, you just attacked them. Jam, for example. From what I hear (and my own experiences), I understand that pretty much everybody who talked to her outside of the forums and knew her liked her. On the boards, though, she got a lot of crap from people. Whether her avatar was actually her or not, people KEPT harassing her about it for the longest time. She was a pretty cool kid, and not just another dumb newb or something. Now she's gone, and I'm pretty sure it's because of all the harassment she got.

    Some people just don't know how to respond to things. For example, kids who get bullied at school. I got made fun of some when I was a kid. People always made fun of my name. For a long time, I had NO idea how to handle it other than to whine and tell them that no, I didn't have an ark. Eventually I realized that to deal with people mocking me I should just ignore them and they'll realize it's not much fun. However, in high school I've seen kids who STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT. People mock them and tease them just to get a response, and the kid just doesn't know to ignore the bullies. Can we blame that bullying on the dorky kid who just doesn't know how to respond? No. It's not the geeky kid's fault that other people are jerks to him.

    We (I do it, too, sometimes. We all do here and there) bully newcomers way too often. Some of them understand how to take it and stay until they're a regular and everybody knows them. Others are scared or hurt by it and leave. And yet more are scared or hurt but stay anyway to try and rough it out, but they never learn to cope with our bullying. I think we should be more sympathetic to people who OBVIOUSLY don't know how to handle the bullying. Eventually they'll get the hang of how we roll by observing what we say to each other, and may be they will pick it up and bully fellow members themselves and receive some friendly bullying of their own. But until we know somebody is comfortable and able to handle themselves here, may be we should lay off a bit.

    I mean, if one of the regulars made a stupid topic about "omfgosh is the chat broken or full?" I would FULLY SUPPORT that we all tear into them like crazy, because they should know better. The newbs however, need reminding of the rules, and harassment and bullying is not a positive way to make them learn.
    So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

    In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

    So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
    And I write the blog for their website.

    Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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    • XDDRCutieX
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2004
      • 251

      #32
      RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

      I agree about all of this. Some people are just immature and it's stupid. People should treat others how they would want to be treated. I have been bullied like once or twice and it wasn't fun at all. I remember my just time posting in here and people treated me like crap. Now they don't, but still if someone askes a question they should answer it nicely. If they are going to be mean to the person then they shouldn't even bother going in the subject. I looked in that forum and I felt bad for the guy. The people in there were treating him like crap. I am christin too and I don't like it when people bad mouth about it either. It's not cool and it's just immature. I also try to help people about other religions the best I can. Not really easy but sometimes they teach me about their religion and it's interesting to me....but w.e. Just be nice even if you hate the person guys!
      ~Rach~

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      • Lightknight924
        FFR Player
        • Jul 2005
        • 1164

        #33
        RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

        I agree, the some of the people in the forum get real mad if you make an incorrect wrong post or something, or ask a stupid question. Not all of the questions seem stupid. Most of them are pretty logical..is there a rule for the forums or somethingthat says treat everthing with an open mind..becuase if not it might help. =)

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        • Verruckter
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2004
          • 2707

          #34
          Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

          Originally posted by Lightknight924
          I agree, the some of the people in the forum get real mad if you make an incorrect wrong post or something, or ask a stupid question. Not all of the questions seem stupid. Most of them are pretty logical..is there a rule for the forums or somethingthat says treat everthing with an open mind..becuase if not it might help. =)

          That's because for them it's really obvious what the answer is. In other situations, people are just pissed off at bad grammar.

          I think this is because memebers here have created some kind of... umm (what's the right word for this...)... let's say group. All the forum regulars know each other, are friends and maybe they don't want other newcomers to break the group and come in. They're just fine with their actual friends and tend to be hostile with noobs. That's how I see it, and that's how I feel too. I'm having fun with the people here and I don't want some random person to come in and start posting random stuff (or at least it seems random to me).
          Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
          Image removed for size violation.

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          • jujo07
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2004
            • 121

            #35
            Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

            Eventually they'll get the hang of how we roll by observing what we say to each other, and may be they will pick it up and bully fellow members themselves and receive some friendly bullying of their own. But until we know somebody is comfortable and able to handle themselves here, may be we should lay off a bit.
            I have to agree with that statement. I know when I first came here, which wasn't too long ago, I observed everyone and how they acted and got to know by the way they type if they were joking or not. I was also afraid to post more than once a day too for fear that I would be bashed like some of the people that were asking simple questions, and to this day I have this feeling that most people on here don't want to hear what I have to say so I'm back to my original state of when I first joined. Yeah, I make a comment here and there but I'm not being myself.

            My point is, is I don't think some of you realize how you make others feel with your bashing comments. Yeah some of them have it coming, but others it's really uncalled for.

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            • Tps222
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2004
              • 6168

              #36
              RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

              Mods need to kick up the warning dissage a knotch, and people need to know how to take criticisim, while, shouldn't get bashed for their questions. I forced my way in here my TWG

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              • SSCUJO
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 332

                #37
                RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                im on these fourms day in and day out... i never miss a beat... but look when i joined and then look at my post count...

                i don't want to post i seriously feel if i do i will be made fun of, i get enough of that in real life.

                so i stick around to just watch from a distance and every once and a while offer a tip in the 'stepmania' section on how to get something working or something...

                i would love to be a bigger part of this commmunity if it would be easier and less harsh...

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                • Squeek
                  let it snow~
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 14444

                  #38
                  RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                  My opinion of what happened in that thread:

                  The original author basically came off as saying "There are people other than Christians in the world? Since when?" in my view. He/she posted as if it were a matter-of-fact that there was a god and all the stuff in this fictional collection of stories known as "The Bible" were totally true.

                  But, I did not flame him. I was the FIRST person to tell him that we don't discuss religion on our website. I knew it would lead to flames if it weren't locked, and I still don't know why it wasn't. It is a general rule that we don't tolerate religious topics on our site because we know how they turn out.

                  Just in case you didn't see it, here's my post, which followed immediately after the topic post in the CT-version of this thread.

                  What happens if none of the characters in your story exist?

                  For that reason, we do not discuss religious topics here. Half of the people here are non-religious and the other half are, so when we argue religion, it always results in a flame war.

                  ~Squeek
                  ~Squeek

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                  • Afrobean
                    Admiral in the Red Army
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 13262

                    #39
                    RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                    Guys, there is no bullying here that isn't deserved.

                    Making fun of newbs who post stupid stuff is bullying. All the other making fun that goes on here is good natured ripping for the most part. There are occasional flames going around (did you guys see that thing with Synth in that Halo thread?).

                    WE ALL TAKE PART IN GOOD NATURED RIPPING. If someone doesn't find that type of thing to be funny or anything like that, then they shouldn't be here. It's that simple.

                    To say that we should change our behavior for the benefit of some random newbs who might not like it is ridiculous. If the newbs don't like it they leave. I mean, just think if someone who is morally against pornography randomly decides to watch some porn. If they don't like it, they don't call up the porno industry and tell them to stop having girl on girl, bukakke, group sex, or whatever it is that they didn't like. They just stop watching that porn and find a porn that is more suited to their likings. Similarly, newbs that don't fit in here should find a different forum where they do fit in.

                    By the way, do you guys like how I made an analogy involving porn?

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                    • falconsfan14
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 2183

                      #40
                      RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                      I noticed this, ever since i started not posting on these forums alot, they've been a little off a bit. Im not saying im a huge part of this community and maybe i havent been around lately to witness these sorts of events happening, but my leave has made some sort of an impact(probably small, but enough to cause change)on the community.

                      By the way, im so very impresed about your post EB, good job. Seriousely(sp?)

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                      • ckj846
                        FFR Player
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2437

                        #41
                        RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                        Hmmm... I sure have come a long way. A lot of you out there get pissed off at me for using childish words and overpunctuating my sentences, but I guess it has changed me into who I am. If you look back at my first posts, you will realize that I was your average noob; I would use horrible spelling and I frequently asked stupid questions. I'm sure almost everyone here has gone through this, and it is just those certain people who can stick out the flaming that end up well known as a 'regular'. Although I flame occasionally (mainly on bad grammar and spelling because I become nostalgic) I try to keep it to a minimum. EB has a great point, and I realize now that what everybody says on these forums gives them a reputation. Now, seeing those flaming threads and such, I have a much better understanding of what really goes on in the minds of some people I used to look up to as a noob. This is very wrong, and I am not sure how anyone can fix this other than mods constantly locking topics. However, I don't really think it is fair to the mods to have to deal with this crap. So, I think everybody should change for the better and we should have a more severe punishment for flaming. Flaming=hurt feelings and pain, something that the world doesn't need any more of... (wow, I'm starting to sound corny, so I think I'll end this post...)
                        O_o
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                        • Moogy
                          嗚呼
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 10303

                          #42
                          RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                          You guys are all jerks.

                          lol.
                          Plz visit my blog

                          ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

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                          • ToshX
                            FFR Player
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 5111

                            #43
                            RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                            Moogy that was pretty lame :/

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                            • HansSky
                              FFR Player
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1925

                              #44
                              Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I feel that this needs sayin

                              Originally posted by falconsfan14
                              ...but my leave has made some sort of an impact(probably small, but enough to cause change)on the community.
                              Guys, I think we figured out the problem. But now everything is okay.
                              hi

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