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  • evilbutterfly
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2003
    • 5784

    #1

    I feel that this needs saying.

    Some of you are being complete morons. In the thread that some newb recently posted asking a sincere religious question, most of the members who responded made complete idiots of themselves. It shames me to see you people act this way. The question was not written stupidly with horrible grammar or anything, and it was a fairly simple thing to answer as far as finding it in a religious book. It made him ask some more questions and caused a little bit of discussion, but that was overshadowed by a great number of you guys being idiots.

    And you're all being very hypocritical. A lot of you (particularly the athiests) complain about religious groups (particularly Christians) pushing their views on you and "oppressing your right to freedom of religion." Then I see this topic where people are like "oh that's all Christian stuff it's bullshit" and cracking jokes about other people's beliefs and trying to tell them that they are wrong for believing what they believe. And it's not like you have to believe in what the guy was saying to answer the question! I don't believe everything in the Bible, but I went straight to the Bible and found a quote that answered the guy's question.

    But it just really angers me that you guys can be such hypocrits in that situation. You mock his religion and won't even try to help, but rather flame him and call him and his religion stupid. What would you do if somebody did that to you? If some Jehova's Witness knocked on your door, and when you answered the started yelling about how you're following Satan and how you're WRONG and they had a group of 20 friends behind them making cracks about you and your religion. Whether you were offended or cared or not, you cannot tell me that you wouldn't be really pissed off at them. So what makes you think it's cool or funny or nice to make fun of them for their religion?

    Now I'm not trying to sound high and mighty or to say that I'm perfect and everybody should follow me, but I'll use myself as an example. I'm pretty much Christian, though I don't believe everything in it. If somebody brings up something about any other religion, a question or something, I would try and help them. Naturally I'd be better at answering Christianity-based questions because it's what I'm familiar with, but I would try my best to answer any other question. Hell, not too long ago I talked a whole bunch about Buddhism with somebody, I can't remember if it was on here or not, but we had a long discussion about it, and I'm not Buddhist, I just know the basics of it.

    It's just like any other topic. If somebody brings up abortion, whether you support it or not, you should be able to calmly discuss it and say why you think it is or isn't right. That can play into religious views, too, and that may come up in discussion. You can't immediately throw out anything somebody says just because it's preceded with "Well, as a Christian, I object" or something like that. You can miss out on a lot of stuff by just blocking people out (or just flaming them immediately) like that.

    And it's not just that recent topic. These boards have gotten worse and worse over time, and now it's just getting ridiculous. I understand that some questions are dumb, but you don't have to keep mocking the person that asks them. Just let the mods do their job and lock the topic. And speaking of mods, let's look at how Jewpin handled that particular situation:

    Originally posted by jewp
    You have to buy me dinner.

    But seriously, you were banned from the chat probably because you were asked to stop doing something, but you didnt. In that case, no one has sympathy for you.
    Yes, he does mock the guy, but he also answers his (dumb) question and explains the situation. Why the topic wasn't locked here, I don't know, but the way Jewpin handled it was the right way. If you're going to make fun of someone, at least answer their question, too. All of you in that topic that just kept making fun of him, you guys go too far. Half the time I don't even click on those topics because I know it's just gonna be a bunch of flaming that, most of the time, isn't even funny.

    And it goes beyond individual topics. You guys seem to target specific individuals for mocking. It's obvious that these people don't know how to handle the mockery, so you guys step it up a notch. It's just not nice. How many of you have ever been bullied and ganged up on before? It's not enjoyable at all. I KNOW that you guys know the difference between harmless mockery and repetitive abuse. I don't have specific examples right offhand but you should all recognize what I'm referring to.

    You guys haven't always been like this, and I don't know why there's this sudden change into being asses, but I don't like it, and I KNOW I'm not the only one to notice.
    So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

    In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

    So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
    And I write the blog for their website.

    Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O
  • Verruckter
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2004
    • 2707

    #2
    RE: I feel that this needs saying.

    I will anser with this sentence: Welcome to the Internet.

    If we were in real life, we wouldn't (well most of us) behave like this. It's much harder to insult someone in real life than over the net. That's why people (including me, maybe, but I don't remember causing crap) cause a lot more crap on the forums than they would in the outside world.
    Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
    Image removed for size violation.

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    • Snapps
      NO DOUBT GET LOUD
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2003
      • 5650

      #3
      RE: I feel that this needs saying.

      There are some people on the forums that doesn't care about how people feel and there are a few who do.

      Pick and choose the right things guys, I agree with EB, this is unacceptable.

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      • GuidoHunter
        is against custom titles
        • Oct 2003
        • 7371

        #4
        You're very much not the only one to notice, and I applaud the creation of this thread.

        --Guido


        Originally posted by Grandiagod
        Originally posted by Grandiagod
        She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
        Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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        • Omeganitros
          auauauau
          • Jun 2003
          • 8897

          #5
          RE: I feel that this needs saying.

          I discard all of eb's evidence with this: It's obviously the summer heat going to everyone's head.

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          • lightdarkness
            Summer!!
            • Jul 2003
            • 11308

            #6
            RE: I feel that this needs saying.

            It's one of the reasons why it's so hard for a noob to become apart of the forum community.

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            • ananana
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 632

              #7
              RE: I feel that this needs saying.

              I agree with EB too, of course.

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              • tnyhwk900
                FFR Player
                FFR Simfile Author
                • May 2003
                • 4106

                #8
                RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                I agree with this. Another example is here, and in this case it was a legit question. It's pretty crappy imo.

                I'm not being hypocritical because I participated in that chat virus topic, though. That was so much fun because the guy believed us XD

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                • Tank101
                  I V vi iii IV I IV V
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2082

                  #9
                  RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                  The post I made wasn't about the first post and the actual idea of the topic, it was just about how random it was and how everyone was like, "Omg world's gonna end." "Omg nuh huh." "I'm an athiest, sploof."

                  I really shouldn't have posted, but that's how I felt.

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                  • ImEric12
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 1952

                    #10
                    RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                    Yeah, people do tend to overreact, but some people definitely have it coming, as well. It is pretty generally expected that people should read over their posts and at very least make sense. Basic internet skills, such as google searching, should be pretty common sense by now.

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                    • evilbutterfly
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 5784

                      #11
                      RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                      I'd like to add, that the "Be funny" rule in the G-Bin has been broken a ridiculous number of times lately, and that's getting damn annoying, though it isn't as big a deal as the general jackassery that is occuring all over.
                      So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                      In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                      So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                      And I write the blog for their website.

                      Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                      • Omeganitros
                        auauauau
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 8897

                        #12
                        Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                        Originally posted by evilbutterfly
                        I'd like to add, that the "Be funny" rule in the G-Bin has been broken a ridiculous number of times lately
                        I'd like to add that the G-Bin has become TONS more prosperous than it used to be. Isn't that what everyone wanted?

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                        • ToshX
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 5111

                          #13
                          Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                          Originally posted by ImEric12
                          Yeah, people do tend to overreact, but some people definitely have it coming, as well.
                          ---
                          Maybe it's just me but the community of FFR seems to be slowly falling.

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                          • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                            Threat Emulation
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • May 2004
                            • 5184

                            #14
                            Re: RE: I feel that this needs saying.

                            Originally posted by Verruckter
                            I will anser with this sentence: Welcome to the Internet.

                            If we were in real life, we wouldn't (well most of us) behave like this. It's much harder to insult someone in real life than over the net. That's why people (including me, maybe, but I don't remember causing crap) cause a lot more crap on the forums than they would in the outside world.
                            Well, that is the opposite of me. Most of my friends know that I joke around, and I know that they joke around. So between all of my friends all we do is make mean/rude/harmful comments to eachother, which I am use to. But on the internet, sarcasm is much harder to (whats the word that I am looking for... ahh screw it i'll just use "use") use so it becomes harder to detect in text .so I tend not to use it as much as I would like.

                            As for everything else, I agree with EB

                            Originally posted by Lightdarkness
                            I'm light f**king darkness

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                            • msbrunnettemickey
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 1780

                              #15
                              I agree.

                              Respect.

                              בקצה השמיים, ובסוף המדבר, יש מקום רחוק מלא פרחי בר
                              מקום קטן, עלוב ומשוגע, מקום רחוק מקום לדאגה
                              יש אומרים שם שמשיקרה וחושבים אל כל מה שקרה
                              אלוהים שם יושב ורואה ושומר אל כל משברא
                              אסור לקטוף את פרחי הגן
                              אסור לקטוף את פרחי הגן
                              ודואג ודואג נורא

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