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[choof]

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im mentally ill because the majority of people can tell someone why they should live and i look at it and i cant say that therefore i must be mentally ill

My parents said they don't want to deal with any drama of having a bunch of people involved, else i cant live there anymore because she 'physically cant handle it'. she is very inhibiting of who i can talk to and what i can say about how i feel

the first line strongly implies that you have not gotten professional help and given that this is like the third time you've posted this kind of thread I'm betting that you have not even tried to seek professional help

get off ffr and go get professional help. check yourself into a hospital. sice you're 18 you're legally an adult so you dont have to bring your family into it at all.

[Rapta]

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what do you call professional help? Last time I went to the hospital they sent me to a place where they told me "everything is fine" for two weeks, gave me medications, and sent me off with an ambulance bill of 3000 dollars (just for transport). I have a therapist i visit weekly and a psychiatrist. I've talked to many counselors and many suicide hotline people and gone to online chatrooms. I haven't seeked professional help yet?

[andy-o24]

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What's your go-to coping mechanism, Rapta?

-o24

[Reincarnate]

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"Getting professional help" can be tough, because there are a lot of therapists / doctors / psychiatrists out there who are simply not very helpful. Sometimes budget is a limitation, too. You may have to shop around a bit.

Do you know if you have a chemical imbalance, or is it just shitty situational/life-based circumstances?

[Rapta]

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for anxiety i go somewhere where i am alone.
for depression i dont have a default coping mechanism

[Rapta]

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"Sometimes budget is a limitation, too. You may have to shop around a bit.

Do you know if you have a chemical imbalance, or is it just shitty situational/life-based circumstances?

I do not know. It certainly feels like both though.

[Reincarnate]

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What kind of situational/life issues?

[MixMasterLar]

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You said you would go somewhere today. Have you decided where? (Hospital, specialist, etc)

[Rapta]

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i found out my normal appointment to see my therapist today was unable to be made because he was booked so I am holding off going anywhere until tomorrow. I was going to ask him what he thought.

[blanky!]

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Wrong is subjective. As someone who is often suicidal, has attempted suicide, and been in the hospital for longer than preferable stays due to suicidal behavior [couple weeks - month], simply being told "you're not alone in those feelings" isn't the answer for everyone. If I were being honest, I'd tell you how much i strongly dislike hearing that.

However, this thread is not about me--so if that is what is helpful for Rapta, indeed, by all means, help him understand that he's not alone. I do not deny the validity or truth behind the statement, yet for some it is more helpful than for others.

No need to be all rainbows and daisies, but as I said before, "wrong" is subjective [except for scintill in this thread, heh].

Those who have struggled similarly may offer what has helped personally for them in the past. People who haven't directly dealt with such situations may offer what seems most logical. It's all a crapshoot. My advice isn't necessarily "right" ~ nor is the next guy's. Taking a high and mighty stance over the lack of validity of everyone's advice [except your own] is dodgy.

Okay. I probably worded that a bit strongly. I didn't mean to speak for everyone there. Oops.

But my point remains, in that all the hullaboo about "ooh don't kill yaself" isn't the healthiest. In my opinion (and not necessarily anyone else's before you call me out again) one should try to validate another's suicidal thoughts, not repress them.

[Mahou]

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Okay. I probably worded that a bit strongly. I didn't mean to speak for everyone there. Oops.

But my point remains, in that all the hullaboo about "ooh don't kill yaself" isn't the healthiest. In my opinion (and not necessarily anyone else's before you call me out again) one should try to validate another's suicidal thoughts, not repress them.

I don't understand. I'm trying to, but I don't get it.

[DossarLX ODI]

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What kind of situational/life issues?

Ultimately Rapta is the one who can give the information on this, although from what I gathered he has helicopter parents who don't take him seriously. That's just my understanding without going into too much detail though.

[Shikari]

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one should try to validate another's suicidal thoughts, not repress them.

wat

[blanky!]

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aarrrgghh am I not being clear enough
my bad

Here's what I'm trying to say: understand the feelings that lead to suicidal thoughts. (or at least try to understand if you've never had them yourself) I am not trying to condone suicide. I am trying to say that repression is unhealthy, and that one should try to come to terms with and accept his/her own thoughts, no matter how extreme.

What I see in all of the threads like these are "don't kill urself u have so much to live for". Yes, the intentions are good. No, I don't believe that the person in question should try to commit suicide. But what some of that message sends is the notion that one completely block his/her bad thoughts off -- which cannot be done without incurring an enormous amount of willpower, which is hardly what someone with depression has.

I hope that clarified some of my thoughts, because I think a lot of you are misreading what I have to say.

[Spenner]

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aarrrgghh am I not being clear enough
my bad

Here's what I'm trying to say: understand the feelings that lead to suicidal thoughts. (or at least try to understand if you've never had them yourself) I am not trying to condone suicide. I am trying to say that repression is unhealthy, and that one should try to come to terms with and accept his/her own thoughts, no matter how extreme.

What I see in all of the threads like these are "don't kill urself u have so much to live for". Yes, the intentions are good. No, I don't believe that the person in question should try to commit suicide. But what some of that message sends is the notion that one completely block his/her bad thoughts off -- which cannot be done without incurring an enormous amount of willpower, which is hardly what someone with depression has.

I hope that clarified some of my thoughts, because I think a lot of you are misreading what I have to say.

Let me tell you this, being someone who was probably as close to as utterly depressed as you, and dysfunctional, I realized forced ignorance, making it a habit, is the only solution. Just have to practice doing it-- a LOT

You think you have no way out. But its because there is no way out when you're on the inside of a loop. A thought loop. It doesn't go away until you find some reason to make it seem silly to be upset by certain things or try to associate it with neutrality... your train of thought, that is.

Good news, thought loops aren't permanent. Even ones that feel so convincing. Glad I've lived to have experienced it myself. I had no idea it were possible to get better.

Rapta, don't think about this so much. It is creating a problem for yourself. A loop :/