Leaving FFR for a while

[L.B.D.D]

Re: Leaving FFR for a while

Tell your dad to go fuck himself

ye i'd tell a guy with a gun to go fuck himself too

solid advice

[korny]

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Watching this LBDD guy post is almost as bad as watching alioth post

[choof]

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Watching this LBDD guy post is almost as bad as watching alioth post

idk man ji isn't nearly as crazy as alioth is

[j-rodd123]

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ya but his dad literally shot a gun in the house at a phone. that's batshit crazy no matter how you look at it

[korny]

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idk man ji isn't nearly as crazy as alioth is

You're right, I went overboard

[FontSize72LOL]

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While i'm pretty sure there were much better ways for your dad to display his distaste for your gaming habit, and get his point across.. I don't think we should hop on any bandwagon to demonize his father for this considering we only know one side of the story and not all of the facts. I doubt his dad would shoot his phone for no reason, and from the facts that I've seen posted in the thread, Riot has been disobeying his dads rules for a while.

It may be harsh, but my suggestion is that if you don't like the situation you're living under then you should probably work on finding a job and an apartment somewhere.

[Reincarnate]

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compromise with dad and don't play ffr around the house

cant you play somewhere else or like not play if he's paying for a lot of your stuff like rent, tuition, whatevs (i mean it's the least u can do rite)

i know ur dad went to SrS measures but i'm assuming you're not paying for everything (internet, phone, utilities, food, rent, tuition.. do you pay for everything?) maybe the least you can do is respect some of AuThoriTy

cause i'm 100% sure this isn't the first time your dad asked you to stop playing games and shit

Yeah because clearly paying for your child entitles you to shoot at their things when you are throwing an irrational temper tantrum.

who shoots something to make a point? It's obvious his dad cares, and I doubt someone would just shoot something over a small reason like this.

then again murrica so ????

is Riot's dad worried for a good reason?

Some people are batshit crazy and don't know how to handle their anger/emotions. Ever hear of the classic abuser quote "You made me do it"?

[Pseudo Enigma]

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Some people are batshit crazy and don't know how to handle their anger/emotions. Ever hear of the classic abuser quote "You made me do it"?

then I'll throw the "it takes two to tango" idiom. I'm not trying to insist one side is at fault, I'm trying to say that it's kinda hard for me to side with Riot when all he did was slander his father in front of us. I'm sure he's just as at fault, even if his display wasn't as striking as his father's.

Really though if he wants to live with his father he should play by his father's rules, not his own. That's the price you pay when you live with your parents. He should probably move out if he doesn't enjoy his living conditions. I know I would move out.

[Reincarnate]

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then I'll throw the "it takes two to tango" idiom. I'm not trying to insist one side is at fault, I'm trying to say that it's kinda hard for me to side with Riot when all he did was slander his father in front of us. I'm sure he's just as at fault, even if his display wasn't as striking as his father's.

Really though if he wants to live with his father he should play by his father's rules, not his own. That's the price you pay when you live with your parents. He should probably move out if he doesn't enjoy his living conditions. I know I would move out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqFaiVNuy1k&t=5m45s

[Pseudo Enigma]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqFaiVNuy1k&t=5m45s

oh cool the "real men don't resort to violence" card. I haven't heard that a million times when getting rehabilitated after watching my mom get abused. Next you're going to say "don't blame the victim", which is perfectly reasonable, if he really is just a victim. But if he's not following rules, his dad has all the choice in the world how to deal with him. He's not a kid anymore.

[FontSize72LOL]

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oh cool the "real men don't resort to violence" card. I haven't heard that a million times when getting rehabilitated after watching my mom get abused. Next you're going to say "don't blame the victim", which is perfectly reasonable, if he really is just a victim. But if he's not following rules, his dad has all the choice in the world how to deal with him. He's not a kid anymore.

+1

[Reincarnate]

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Pseudo Enigma: You missed the point. The point is that it does not always "take two to tango."

I would not be surprised if you yourself were raised in a toxic environment, because such individuals can have a hard time understanding what constitutes healthy vs unhealthy behavior.

But if he's not following rules, his dad has all the choice in the world how to deal with him.

In a word: No, he doesn't.

Under what circumstance is shooting your kid's stuff a reasoned or rational response to a disagreement?

I urge you to think about what you're saying, here.

[FontSize72LOL]

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Pseudo Enigma: ...you missed the point almost entirely. The point is that it does not always "take two to tango."

I would not be surprised if you yourself were raised in a toxic environment, because such individuals can have a hard time understanding what constitutes healthy vs unhealthy behavior.



In a word: No, he doesn't.

Under what circumstance is shooting your kid's stuff a reasoned or rational response to a disagreement?

I urge you to think about what you're saying, here.

Not everyone has a household situation that is roses and butterflies. I'm pretty sure those of us that raised in a less than ideal home environment knows what constitutes healthy vs unhealthy behavior. I'm pretty sure nobody disputes the fact that Riots dad went a bit overboard. I'm assuming that Riot is living in a situation where he is not contributing to the household living expenses, so its more than reasonable that he should be following his parents rules. I'm not going to attempt to argue with you because, frankly, it would be a waste of my time. I've seen numerous posts from you so i pretty much already know what you're going to say. I will say this, You have a very idealistic and unrealistic view of the world.

[Reincarnate]

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I'm assuming that Riot is living in a situation where he is not contributing to the household living expenses, so its more than reasonable that he should be following his parents rules.

Nobody here is disputing the notion of following rules (however that topic has more nuance to it than I care to get into atm).

The point here is the father's reaction. It doesn't matter if Riot is a stubborn asshole who just wants to disregard an otherwise rational parent's wishes: There's no situation in which pulling out a gun is the correct response.

So if you want to say that this sort of vantage point is the result of an "idealistic and unrealistic" worldview... you're right, further discussion would be for naught.

PS:

I'm pretty sure those of us that raised in a less than ideal home environment knows what constitutes healthy vs unhealthy behavior.

Studies would disagree with you, here.

One of the major reasons why many abuse victims (granted, not most) wind up becoming abusers themselves is precisely because they do not learn the healthy methods for dealing with conflict -- or they don't understand that what happened to them was wrong (i.e. they find ways to justify it to resolve the cognitive dissonance).

[korny]

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Not everyone has a household situation that is roses and butterflies. I'm pretty sure those of us that raised in a less than ideal home environment knows what constitutes healthy vs unhealthy behavior. I'm pretty sure nobody disputes the fact that Riots dad went a bit overboard. I'm assuming that Riot is living in a situation where he is not contributing to the household living expenses, so its more than reasonable that he should be following his parents rules. I'm not going to attempt to argue with you because, frankly, it would be a waste of my time. I've seen numerous posts from you so i pretty much already know what you're going to say. I will say this, You have a very idealistic and unrealistic view of the world.

Sorry bud, but Rubix is completely right about this, and you're not going to further argue with him under these pretenses, because you wouldn't be able to do so logically. I would also bet that it is actually more likely that you do not in fact understand what constitutes healthy behavior here because of your inability to see this.