Mars 2023

[Cavernio]

Re: Mars 2023

it's real, can't not be, nope, imma see people living on mars in 10 years, won't it be neat, don't crush my dreams

heard about it on 16x9 that also talked about that guy who made 12 billion dollars selling land on the moon

[Reach]

Re: Mars 2023

There are so many ways this can fail even if they put together billions upon billions needed for funding.

I mean, what about the technology? It's hard enough to land a rover on mars. Do they even have proof of concept of sustained flight for 7+ months carrying all of the equipment necessary to live there and set up a sustainable system and land properly on the surface with some modicum of probability of success? :S

You'd have to land like 100+ tonnes of equipment on the surface if you plan to stay there. I'm pretty sure nobody has figured out how to do that yet. Also, pretty sure they still haven't solved even the most basic problems such as dust and the ability to sustain storms on mars. Not to mention we know there are microorganisms on the surface now. What about medical staff? What happens if someone gets infected? Quarantine? The infection could be completely unknown to us.

What's NASA"s take on this?

Sounds like a horrible idea. lmao

[Izzy]

Re: Mars 2023

Even if every single person on the planet devoted the next 10 years of their life to making this happen, would it be possible?

Does earth have the neccesary resources to establish interplanetary civilization?

[xVaLoRx]

Re: Mars 2023

i can only imagine the massive amount of regret some people will have when they realize "wow, i moved to a planet that is a pile of dust"

[Pseudo Enigma]

Re: Mars 2023

just smells like they want guinea pigs for an experiment to me. The idea of space travel sounds scary enough for me, so no thank you!

even if they can pull this off in the next 10 years, I'm fine with the planet I have right now.

[DotKritic]

Re: Mars 2023

I wonder what the estimated cost of this would be (can I count the trillions of dollars with my two hands?)

Application cost: $38USD

Mars One estimates the cost of putting the first four people on Mars at about six billion US dollars.

      	
Country
	
Amount (USD)
1 	United States 	$ 32354
2 	Canada 	$ 6227
3 	United Kingdom 	$ 5935
4 	Australia 	$ 3785
5 	Netherlands 	$ 3245
6 	Germany 	$ 2741
7 	Russia 	$ 2730
8 	Sweden 	$ 2534
9 	France 	$ 1244
10 	Norway 	$ 1180
11 	Finland 	$ 1167
12 	Belgium 	$ 1062
13 	New Zealand 	$ 730
14 	Denmark 	$ 702
15 	Switzerland 	$ 654
16 	Japan 	$ 412
17 	South Africa 	$ 402
18 	Italy 	$ 358
19 	United Arab Emirates 	$ 350
20 	Poland 	$ 349
21 	Brazil 	$ 300
22 	Austria 	$ 269
23 	Romania 	$ 264
24 	Ukraine 	$ 247
25 	Spain 	$ 246
26 	Ireland 	$ 245
27 	Israel 	$ 230
28 	Singapore 	$ 218
29 	Taiwan 	$ 208
30 	Luxembourg 	$ 188
31 	Belarus 	$ 178
32 	China 	$ 164
33 	India 	$ 158
34 	Turkey 	$ 154
35 	Lithuania 	$ 148
36 	Hungary 	$ 122
37 	Czech Republic 	$ 117
38 	Latvia 	$ 65
39 	Indonesia 	$ 53
40 	Iceland 	$ 47
41 	Slovenia 	$ 45
42 	Croatia 	$ 44
43 	Vietnam 	$ 44
44 	Greece 	$ 38
45 	Philippines 	$ 37
46 	Portugal 	$ 34
47 	Malta 	$ 34
48 	Bulgaria 	$ 33
49 	Bahrain 	$ 29
50 	Chile 	$ 29
51 	Malaysia 	$ 29
52 	Slovakia 	$ 20
53 	Estonia 	$ 19
54 	Colombia 	$ 2
	Total amount 	$ 72220

[Izzy]

Re: Mars 2023

Application cost: $38USD
Total amount $ 72220

Damn, I should have thought of making a site like this. I'd be rich.

[Reach]

Re: Mars 2023

6 billion USD?

lol what

It costs like a billion dollars just to put a shuttle in space to orbit earth.

Considering you would have to custom design a shuttle capable of such a voyage, on top of a much more expensive launch...I really, really doubt this #.

It's actually kind of a joke for them to even cite a potential cost, given the technology for this mission doesn't even exist yet.


Like, after reading more about their plans, they don't even make sense. They want to use dragon capsule to land? Ok. It exists, too bad we currently don't have the tech or any known methods of actually landing it. Airbraking/airbags or parachutes are not going to land this thing. It'll have to be propelled and we have no way of doing this right now, also, it would have to carry a lot of fuel to do so which is another problem (how heavy, exactly, of a rocket do we plan on launching here?)

Are they even scouting locations for colonization? They should probably do it soon. I'd like to know how they plan on doing it, given that we know how fast the mars rover actually moves. Really fucking slow. How the hell are they going to scout anything? XD

[04im]

Re: Mars 2023

making money off of clueless people is as easy as a, b, c

[Spenner]

Re: Mars 2023

It's actually kind of a joke for them to even cite a potential cost, given the technology for this mission doesn't even exist yet.

This. It feels really unplanned/poorly organized, despite having some people like spacex and the like listed on their site (prolly just affiliations and not much more). Not to mention the liabilities on the plate here.

If they don't really have a detailed mapped out vision here, rather than just ideas up in the air, I can't really expect much. Their mission statements are incredibly vague and I think they just want money for something they'll eventually end up having to admit "I guess it's a bit out of reach for right now, one day we can try this again" as they blow their noses in the fat wads of cash they profited on.

[Pseudo Enigma]

Re: Mars 2023

A manned mission to Mars is expensive. We plan to fund it by making it the biggest media spectacle in history. This way, everyone will get the chance to not only watch the astronauts make their journey, but choose who gets to do so. Four people, icons, who will leave their life on Earth behind and start an adventure on a new planet tens of millions of miles away.

sounds like the plot of a shitty 90s movie. Honestly it only sounds like they want to get funding for something else. This doesn't feel solid no matter how much I read about it.

Why did Columbus travel west? Why did Marco Polo head east? Because it is that pull, that unknown, that prospect of adventure that compels humans to seek new frontiers to explore.

Dude. If this is your argument statement, then you've lost me. What the fuck. I don't want to hear about Columbus when thinking about Space Travel. I wanna hear things like "there are materials on other planets we need for curing incurable diseases and making miracles happen. etc" the statement is also just very generally weak.
Why go to the fridge? Because Columbus once went west.

[DotKritic]

Re: Mars 2023

This round is the national selection round, which could be broadcasted on TV and internet in countries around the world. In each country, 20-40 applicants will participate in challenges that demonstrate their suitability to become one of the first humans on Mars. The audience will select one winner per country and Mars One experts will select additional participants to continue to round four.

Sounds like FOX would broadcast this.

[top]

Re: Mars 2023

every person who applies for this should be put into the Colosseum and forced to fight to the death. whoever wins gets to live and they receive a free copy of the footage of the entire battle as seen from the sky.

[Spenner]

Re: Mars 2023

Dude. If this is your argument statement, then you've lost me. What the fuck. I don't want to hear about Columbus when thinking about Space Travel. I wanna hear things like "there are materials on other planets we need for curing incurable diseases and making miracles happen. etc" the statement is also just very generally weak.
Why go to the fridge? Because Columbus once went west.

Yeah the fact that they sort of propose aimless exploration and don't have a specific reason to go forward with billions of dollars worth of preparation at stake, makes them out to look a bit sketchy. Columbus went looking west because there was no knowledge of more earth being on that side. We pretty well fully know what to expect when arriving on mars, its not like unobserved territory. Just unwalked.

[cedolad]

Re: Mars 2023

all I can think about is Total Recall.