MapleStory

[Dogos]

Re: MapleStory

hmm so i went onto the thread about afro getting banned and got bitched at about how everyone hates afro and he whines all the time...oh well anyone know who banned him?

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

Haha.

The person in that screenshot isn't even the right level for 4th job.

The person in that screenshot wasn't the one using the skill. That is the dragon skill for archers and that person in the SS was a thief. 80% as of now, I'll level to 77 for sure during 2x exp. Since I'll be leaving soon for Japan and I"ll be gone for close to 3 weeks, I figured I would post a 2nd job build for everyone... Again this is just my recomendations from past experience, you do not need to follow it or listen to my advice if you do not want to. I'll also have some training spots for you. Unfortunately though, I do not know the training spots in ludi as it wasn't released when I was in 2nd job (well it was released when I was in 2nd job in my late 6x's). Here we go I guess...

First off, I would like to say that I am an FAless (final attack) archer and I believe it is smart not to go fa. Why?
1) FA does not work with 3rd job skills.

What this means is that basically once you hit level 70 and you get the very sexy strafe, your 30 points you invested into fa will have gone to complete waste because it will no longer activate when you use 3rd job skills. It will still activate when you use ds, ab, and bomb/iron arrow, but there are much better skills in 3rd job.

2) FA wastes time

FA makes it so that you, as an archer, get your skills much later then faless archers. You won't come close to getting maxed bomb, pkb, or soul/booster until way late in your 2nd job advancement. Also, FA is passive and activates on a certain % (60% when maxed) so even if you kill a monster with ds or ab, fa still might activate, thus meaning you are shooting at nothing.

3) FA does not allow you to max soul, booster, and whatever other skills you want

Again, if you get FA you are losing that much more time and points. 30 points is 10 levels (which will be your 4x, the hardest time as an archer in my opinion). If you go FAless, you have those EXTRA 30 points to play around with, which you can use to max booster, soul arrow, arrow blow, focus, or blessing, which I consider much more important. I have seen 3rd job rangers who went with FA having only 5 in soul arrow. Both soul arrow and booster are annoying to cast, especially if you are in mobs and you need to kill fast. Although 150 seconds sounds like enough, it really isn't.

I am a bit biased against FA just because I'm FAless myself but if you look at it, I really do see no point in even putting 1 point into it. That brings up another point of mine... If you are going to put ANY points into FA, you must max it or then your points go to even more of a waste. The two main builds for archers are FAless and FA so now you can decide which one you would like best. I'm not quite sure on the FA build but I'll try my best according to some FA archers I know.

FAless build:
30 1 Arrow bomb (mob control)
31 3 Bow/Xbow mastery (3)
32 3 mastery (6)
33 3 mastery (9)
34 3 mastery (12)
35 3 mastery (15)
36 3 mastery (18)
37 1 mastery (19 don't max mastery because the last point only adds in 1 more accuracy, which you don't need as an archer) 2 booster (2)
38 3 booster (5)
39 3 soul arrow (3)
40 2 booster (7) 1 soul (4)
41 2 booster (9) 1 soul (5) (this should be enough booster and soul for a while)
42 3 arrow blow (13)
43 3 arrow blow (16)
44 3 arrow blow (19)
45 1 arrow blow (maxed) 2 power knock back (pkb) (2)
46 3 pkb (5)
47 3 pkb (8)
48 3 pkb (11)
49 3 pkb (14)
50 3 pkb (17)
51 3 pkb (maxed)

Now here you can decide. If you like how booster and soul are right now, then go ahead and add points into bomb. I would recomend getting bomb as soon as possible just because it is by far, the strongest attack you will have in 2nd job against 3 or more monsters. I use it a lot, even in 3rd job just because the damage is amazing and the stun is an added bonus. If you want to level fast but don't mind about the mp cost of booster and bomb, go ahead and start maxing bomb.

52 3 bomb (4)
53 3 bomb (7)
54 3 bomb (10)
55 3 bomb (13)
56 3 bomb (16) (here at level 15 bomb's mp cost doubles so you might want to add some points into booster and soul to save money)
57 3 bomb (19)
58 3 bomb (22)
59 3 bomb (25)
60 3 bomb (28)
61 2 bomb (maxed) 1 booster (10)
62 2 booster (12) 1 soul (6)
63 2 booster (14) 1 soul (7)
64 2 booster (16) 1 soul (8)
65 2 booster (18) 1 soul (9)
66 2 booster (maxed) 1 soul (10)
67 3 soul (13)
68 3 soul (16)
69 3 soul (19)
70 1 soul (maxed) 2 points you put in whatever.

For an fa build, the ones on http://www.hidden-street.net are good. Again this is just my recomendation. I, myself, did not follow this build because I didn't think that far ahead on my archer. I also put my last 9 points from 1st job into accuracy so I don't have quite as many points to play around with (I wanted maxed arrow blow). So I only have 13 soul but I'm perfectly fine with it as it is. I would actually strongly recomend that you max bomb 5x time because you will be training on pixies which are very very good for mobbing, as are jr. yetis and zombies. Now for some training spots... Again I don't know any good spots in ludi because ludi was not released yet.

30-35: Continue training where you were. The advancement is not going to be a huge change from your ant tunnel/wild boar training. Here, I would skip the level 30 bow if you are low on funds because it is slower then your battle bow. If you are an xbowman, I would strongly recomend getting eagle crow, or if possible, even a maple crow. I didn't have the maple weapons when I was that level but they are very good (but rather expensive). If you have the money, try investing in a good maple bow/xbow, they will come in handy.

35-40: This is really where things start to pick up. The red viper is VERY VERY GOOD. I strongly recomend 100% scrolling this if you are low on funds or 60% it if you have the money just because the weapon is "fast" attack speed and has a high base weapon attack. For xbowman, the heckler is probably going to be your weapon throughout 4x so SCROLL IT VERY WELL OR FIND A WELL SCROLLED ONE. This is a time where leveling will come much easier for you. Brace yourself though because the 4x is going to be tough. By this time, you should be doing very well and more stable damage because mastery is very high and you are getting booster. Try training in orbis at cloud park 1 or 2 or at jr. kitties. Jr. kitties are very good money because you can sell the horns for quite a bit in free market or you can trade them in yourself for pots and some extra exp. I would stay in orbis though because nath really isn't for anyone under 45-50. If you want to stay in vic though, train on fire boars, or if you have a good viper/heckler, try copper drakes.

40-45: Things start to slow down here. You will still level decently fast but not as fast as you are used to. For bowman, keep using the viper/maple bow until you feel that you are weak or you want to be able to tackle harder monsters. If you want to conserve money, you might want to skip the v2k (level 40 bow) all together. For xbowman, keep your heckler until the rower at level 50. Start training on lunar pixies because they are very good exp for this level (cloud park 3-4). You can try ludi out but I'm not too sure if there are any good places for archers. Try to experiment and see where you can kill in 1-3 hits easily that has great spawn. I personaly like lunar pixies because they drop some good things and they have great maps for archers. Vic really doesn't have anywhere good to train for you at this point unless you want to train at copper drakes (which are slower then lunar pixies and drop less money >.<)

46-50: This truly is hell for archers. Not only are we not getting much stronger, but we need a ton of exp to level. Right here is probably the best time to PQ in ludi. I didn't have this luxury but if you are in a server that is emptier then scania is (>.<) pqing is probably your best bet to not dying of boredom. This is where your archer can get frustrating. Here is the time you really want to save up money though because the oly is a bit on the pricy side (not as much as it used to be, it was 5-10 mil when I was this level but it will still make a big hole in yoru pocket) Keep at lunar pixies or even go back to kitties if you need money. Here, I remember I also tried stone golems (which have terrible spawn but decent exp. Go here if you really have nothing better to do) You can also try to fight stuff in nath. Jr. yetis are always good but I'm not quite sure you will do too well against them at this point. All you can do is be conservative and try to enjoy these hard times with your archer. Also, now is the time to really start thinking about attack wgs/archer gloves. You will need them to be level at all efficiently. All I can say is good luck with this >.<

50-55: This is the time to shine. Make sure you get a very good oly/rower because you will level like crazy at this time. Also this is the first time you get an overall (unless you get a sauna robe which I highly recomend against doing because it is expensive and you have lower def). If you have the money (which you probably don't) 60% scroll a kimset or if you are low on funds (like I usually am) 100% some (look on hidden street to see which npcs sell 100% overall dex scrolls). Also this is the time I got my first attack wg. I started off with a 5 attack (which don't go for much, I believe they are about 6 mil right now in scania) and I just kept on upgrading it so that I have a 9 attack now. Start off low and work your way up, people actually do trade their higher attack gloves for money. If you have good equips, go to luster pixies or jr. yetis (lusters are the best source of exp and money in my opinion but they do get a bit boring and are pot consuming until you can 1-2 hit them) You can give hectors a try also. Don't go near zombies at all because it will only bring you misery and pain. This is the time archers shine, enjoy it.

55-60: You will continue to level at your normal speed. Now is the time you can try zombies because at this time, you should be 2-3 hitting them. Bring a bunch of unagis, pure waters, and antidotes because you will need them. My friend told me that at this time, it is great leveling with priests if you have any priest friends. Make friends with priests so you can take advantage of free heal and holy symbol (more exp). Sounds mean but it is the truth =) Other then that, just train on whatever you really feel like. I'm still not quite sure on ludi but just play around. This is the time where you can do as you want really. Lusters are going to be good money at this time and zombies will probably drain your money a bit =/

60-65: Zombies zombies zombies. The best exp you can get really at this time. It is hard to get a ch but well worth it. Again you are stuck in the same places... Hectors, lusters, zombies, jr. yetis. Try out ludi at this time and see if you can kill buffys well or try soul teddies with a priest.

65-70: Zombies are very very fast at this point also but they are starting to slow down. I remember here was the time I grinded and got these 5 levels in 4 days at zombies. A friend of mine told me that yetis (ice valley 1 map) is very fast exp also and also a ton of fun. 390 exp for about 6 hits I think at this time is decent. Make sure you keep upgrading your stuff. All I can say is the more money you have, the more potential you have for being strong. Buy or scroll a dex cape. Get a better wg. Scroll your bows/xbows well. It is well worth it in the end. This is the last stretch of your 2nd job advancement so here is the time to really put your head down and just grind. Not the most enjoyable but the most rewarding.

And that is about it. Took me a very long time to type so I hope you all appreciate it. Good luck to all you 2nd job advancers, I hope you the best and I hope that this guide has helped you out a lot.

Please don't follow my guide word for word. It is only an opinion based on my experiences. If you do have a suggestion feel free to just post it on here. If you feel you need more booster at one point or you think you want a certain skill before another, don't hesitate to just do it. Oh and I forgot to add a xbowman faless build but it is basically the same except switch out arrow bomb for iron arrow. However, as an xbowman, you will probably want more booster earlier then most hunters do.

Good luck once again to everyone.
CamTheArcher
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[evilbutterfly]

Re: MapleStory

http://guildless.net/show_image.php?id=624

Who is that guy on the ledge? FM searcher? I WANT IT IN GMS!!! D=

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

Soul teddies+2x exp+Priest=



Yay. Great way to sorta leave maple for 3 weeks. I leave tomorrow in the morning so I have to pack >.< I'm trying to frantically buy this arund from a girl but she isn't coming online so I may have to look for another. Also bid on a dark falcon and my friend is hunting MDTs for a blue pris. I'm pretty much set for 8x =)
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[FluorescentArmy]

Re: MapleStory

How do I "Scroll" things.


And I don't understand ckj's builds >.<
Someone just give me a little hint on reading them so I don't destroy my archer.

I didn't level much in double exp. 1 and a half levels...But I was trying to get stiff feathers and one of those retarded metal pigs wouldn't go away so I spent about a quarter of the time with everyone else on the rope..

10k crossbow arrows today though..

[Eyoshi]

Re: MapleStory

Sweet.

[IAAW]

Re: MapleStory

I'd like someone to do a hit worth 1337 damage and screenie it.

[Squeek]

Re: MapleStory

I'd like someone to do a hit worth 1337 damage and screenie it.

It happens far too often.

Not important.

[IAAW]

Re: MapleStory

Squeek, you find everything "not important". Not to be rude.

I'm starting to miss MS.

[Squeek]

Re: MapleStory

All aspects of this game are insanely boring. That's why it's not important.

It was fun hitting 1,337 for the first time on my first cleric... a year ago. Everything was fun and interesting for the first time. Then the game sucked because nothing changed.

If they made a pay-to-play version with 50x exp, I'd play that.

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

How do I "Scroll" things.


And I don't understand ckj's builds >.<
Someone just give me a little hint on reading them so I don't destroy my archer.

I didn't level much in double exp. 1 and a half levels...But I was trying to get stiff feathers and one of those retarded metal pigs wouldn't go away so I spent about a quarter of the time with everyone else on the rope..

10k crossbow arrows today though..

I think you were getting confused. That second one I wrote (the insanely large blocky text one) was for 2nd job, 30+. What you need is the 1st job build.

In my opinion, focus is rather useless. Max range for sure and max out critical, then I would go for maxing double shot because the damage for ds is much more stable then arrow blow (which doesn't mean it is stronger then arrow blow, most get this confused). However, you will have 9 extra points at the end of 1st job (8 for you since you put a point into focus). I strongly recomend putting these 9 points into arrow blow just because you really need the knock back (kb) later on. I would max arrow blow if you plan on going fa-less (final attack, 2nd job skill that fires an extra arrow after you use a skill. Sounds good but it is a huge waste of points because it doesn't work for 3rd job skills and it defeats the purpose of mobbing). Well I guess I should post a short build for all these upcoming archers O_O

10 1 arrow blow
11 3 blessing
12 3 eye (3)
13 3 eye (6)
14 2 eye (maxed) 1 critical shot (cs) (1)
15 3 cs (4)
16 3 cs (7)
17 3 cs (10)
18 3 cs (13) (make the switch to xbow now, you should have been using melee weapons if you followed my advice earlier on =D)
19 3 cs (16)
20 3 cs (19)
21 1 cs (maxed) 2 double shot (ds) (2)
22 3 ds (5)
23 3 ds (8)
24 3 ds (11)
25 3 ds (14)
26 3 ds (17)
27 3 ds (maxed)
28 3 arrow blow (4)
29 3 arrow blow (7)
30 3 arrow blow (10)

This is just what I recomend but it really comes down to your play style. I like to control enemys so kb (knockback) that comes from arrow blow is very useful in making sure I don't get run over by monsters with high kb (especially for higher level monsters) KB is very very important to archers and ds has bad kb (strafe even worse >.<). Think about it this way...

1 shot 260% when maxed (arrow blow)
2 shots 130% each arrow when maxed (double shot)
4 shots 100% each arrow when maxed (strafe)

Overall damage may be similar, but the way the damage is given to the monster is different. Double shot, the damage is divided up into 2 parts while arrow blow is one supercharged arrow that does quite a bit of damage with one strike, thus easily kbing monsters. Strafe has the worst because damage is divided into 4 arrows. Sure it has higher chance of critical but it still has unreliable kb.

I'll post a 2nd job advance build for you guys later when you want/need me to =/ Again, my build is only based on my playing style. If you want to take on higher monsters earlier, I would get more accuracy (I see no point in this really but I made the mistake of putting my points into accuracy early on. This costed me later because I had to use 3 extra levels to get arrow blow to level it should have been). If you want more avoid (20 avoid is rather pointless in my opinion) and don't mind having another semi-flashy skill to stick on your crowded keyboard, be my guest and put your extra 9 points into focus. Don't worry if you messed up already because there really is no wrong way to do 1st job builds. As long as you have maxed eye, double shot, and critical, you can't go wrong =)

Good luck to all of you, I hope you the best.
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To scroll something, all you need to do is find/buy the scroll you want to use. Then you open up both your item and equip menus and you drag the scroll on to the appropriate item. I wouldn't start scrolling weapons until level 35 (bows) or 37 (xbows) and wouldn't start scrolling armor until 50+ so you have some time to think about it.
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EDIT: Squeek, the only reason you find the game dull and boring is because you chose the most boring class. Priests are not fun at all in my opinion because all you do is heal, heal, heal, heal, hs, bless, invicible, heal, heal, heal (in parties). Soloing... HS, Bless, Invincible, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, hs, bless, invincible, heal, heal. What fun is that? I love my ranger now because I have many skills to play around with. Puppet is insanely fun for no particular reason at all. I only have a few more levels of boredom, then I get rain which will come in handy and will also be fun to snipe with (especially at DTs). I'm sure bandit doesn't think his hermit is boring, or even EB and his fire mage. It all comes down to the class you pick I believe and unfortunately it seems like priests were the fast but boring levelers =/ Pick back up on your xbowman squeek, you won't regret it.
EDIT: I'll try to take a screen of 1337. It won't be total damage but that doesn't matter right? If I can find the SS, I had 1337 hp at some point.
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[evilbutterfly]

Re: MapleStory

I just wish we had a Tespia. I wouldn't want all of gMS to get 50x exp, because that would make what I've accomplished with my mage suddenly mean nothing, but I would like to be able to screw around on a server with the test server's rates.

In other news: It won't be long before I'm not able to hit for 1337 damage anymore with fire arrow. As it is, I can only do it on things resistant to fire. Of course, by the time I can't do it with FA, I'll be doing it with claw all the time. ;D

EDIT after seeing Cam's post: The thing I think is most boring about priests is how easy it is to play as them. Once you get enough HP to fight something MG-less without dying in one shot (which is pretty easy with ER and Invincible, especially if you get a spearman for HB) then you just heal away and do just about nothing else. Training is a challenge for me. Other people I see training and people who have played my mage get hurt a lot, but I've done it so much I've gotten pretty good at killing without taking much damage. Also, I have a wide array of attacks that I use, each with a separate purpose. Sometimes I need poison, sometimes explosion, sometimes fire arrow. Sometimes I need to slow or seal enemies, and knowing when and how to use all my skills to their full extent makes training less mechanical and boring. I actually have fun at pirates because when I work them right I can go through the whole map and kill them all without taking any damage. Priests don't even worry about taking damage, they just run in Healing away and trust that they won't get killed in 1 hit. =\

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

The fun thing about rangers that I never really appreciated is the fact we can actually control monsters and where exactly we want them to be. We have pkb so we can whack them into place/lure them, bomb to stun/lure also, then we can just puppet and strafe away. There is also the factor of arrow blow because a 3rd attack (2nd for 2nd jobbers) makes things more exciting. So what if the damage isn't stable? So what if arrow blow does less damage? It is fun knocking back monsters because it means you don't get hit as much. I guess that is sorta another fun thing too. Like EB said, people who play on my archer TAKE WAY TOO MUCH DAMAGE AND USE TOO MANY POTS (cough cough emccky cough cough). I love my archer and I sure am glad I didn't "retire" like I said I would at level 74. Puppet is what really keeps me going because in my mind, I find it hilarious how monsters are so defenseless, even the strongest of monsters (unless they can kill my puppet in one hit >.<). Point being, the idea of attacking monsters in the way YOU want to makes the game and "training" in general that much more fun.
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EDIT: Leaving for Japan tomorrow morning. I'm going to be gone for 3 weeks =/

[Bahamut-X]

Re: MapleStory

@Cam's post:

This is why I see being a page is boring and being a WK is gonna be boring too. You know that heal heal heal thing you mentioned? For WKs it's PS PS PS PS SB PS PS PS PS SB etc. Atleast priests get shining ray and dragon to play around with, WK gets nothing new but high damage which doesn't seem as fun as having a wide variety of skills. This is why I wish I was a hermit. They're fast, they get flash jump, avenger, and shadow partner. Looks like so much fun >.>

But I can't let 66 levels go down the drain so I guess I'll take the time to get to 3rd job =/

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

Hermits don't have funner skills. Rangers do. Inferno, strafe, puppet, hawk, rain, mb... Hermits have... Avenger, sp, shadow web (which I haven't seen before), flash jump? Sure hermits are strong, but they aren't very good with mobs and I like mobs =D
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EDIT: Got my 98 att arund for a GREAT price (7.5 mil) and also got a dark falcon (which I personally like but i know a lot of people don't. IT IS A HELMET! >=O) for 400k. Below average def but still average dex. Not bad for a day of fm hunting. Well I'm leaving early in the morning tomorrow so I'm going to go to sleep. Bye I'll be back in 3 weeks.