TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

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  • Xiz
    TWG Chaos
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Feb 2012
    • 3399

    #1

    TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread


    **THIS IS JUST A TEST. YOSHL IS CREATING SOMETING BIGGER AND BETTER. BUT FOR NOW, TO GENERATE THOUGHTS**


    Click Here For Spreadsheet


    General:
    - Games must not be jTWG games
    - Games must be at least majority over year it took place
    - Games must end before the new year
    - Top 13 will compete in an All-Star game at end of the year, separate from Ranked
    - I might have an IRL reward, but that's a big might. We shall see.

    Points:

    +5 Alignment win
    +2 Host Game
    +1 Loss
    +1 Replacing In
    -5 Being Replaced
    -10 Modkilled


    This is still a work in progress, but feel free to give me any recommendations, because I am still balancing and perfecting this. Also, this might help for the TWG awards at the end of the year. Thanks!
    Last edited by Xiz; 03-24-2016, 12:19 PM.

  • storn42
    RIP Storn D0-D0
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2012
    • 3473

    #2
    Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

    rocking that 0% win rate


    Originally posted by Xiz
    "I think storn is town but he doesn't have a shirt on" - Roundbox
    Originally posted by the sun fan
    I have beat my meat to storn's posts no less than four times


    Originally posted by ShadoWolfe


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    • Tokzic
      FFR Player
      • May 2005
      • 6878

      #3
      Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

      cool idea and i'm interested to see where it goes

      i don't see why jtwgs don't count, more stats the better imo

      Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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      • Xiz
        TWG Chaos
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Feb 2012
        • 3399

        #4
        Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

        Originally posted by Tokzic
        cool idea and i'm interested to see where it goes

        i don't see why jtwgs don't count, more stats the better imo
        initially it was to relieve pressure on new TWG'rs for how relaxed they normally are. If people want them to count I'll def throw them in

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        • botchi246
          Keepin it Real since '05
          • Mar 2005
          • 601

          #5
          Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

          Ayyy im all for this. Good idea

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          • Makilaz
            TWG Princess
            • May 2006
            • 1094

            #6
            Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

            I know I haven't played any games since coming back here but I plan on playing in the next one so please add me to the spreadsheet tia

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            • thesunfan
              Role Tide
              Sectional Moderator
              • May 2011
              • 10859

              #7
              Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

              I support this very, very, very mildly

              It gives people less incentive to host games

              Winrate is not a good example of how good someone is in a team game like TWG, but its \ok\ It misses a lot of things like whether or not someone got carried in a few victories or not, and rewards people for winning while being very, very wrong.

              Its still \ok\ though.
              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
              Originally posted by XelNya
              I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
              Originally posted by star-crossed
              (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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              • Xiz
                TWG Chaos
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2012
                • 3399

                #8
                Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                Originally posted by thesunfan
                It gives people less incentive to host games
                Yeah, i'm trying to figure out how many points hosts earn, if any. I kinda wanna say that it's 3? I don't know yet. Remember this is like super super Alpha version 0.00001

                Originally posted by thesunfan
                Winrate is not a good example of how good someone is in a team game like TWG, but its \ok\ It misses a lot of things like whether or not someone got carried in a few victories or not, and rewards people for winning while being very, very wrong.


                Its still \ok\ though
                If I recall correctly, Jrodd suggested a meathod that 2+2 uses, where the farther along town got as a whole, they got more points. Like more points if team got to final 3. I'm trying to figure out how that might be able to fit in.

                \ok\ is exactly how I would describe it atm. I'm slowly breaking down everything into its own section so I can adjust accordingly.

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                • Xiz
                  TWG Chaos
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 3399

                  #9
                  Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                  Originally posted by Makilaz
                  I know I haven't played any games since coming back here but I plan on playing in the next one so please add me to the spreadsheet tia
                  Adding jTWG's were recommended so I will try it out if I see more support for it. And once you sign up to play the next TWG game I will automatically put you on.
                  Last edited by Xiz; 03-21-2016, 12:44 PM.

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                  • Makilaz
                    TWG Princess
                    • May 2006
                    • 1094

                    #10
                    Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                    i do think jtwg's should count or at least as their own ranking if there are enough of them

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                    • Xiz
                      TWG Chaos
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3399

                      #11
                      Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                      So far this year there have been 1, so if I would add it in it would be to the main group.

                      Would jTWG's count as much as normal TWGs?

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                      • j-rodd123
                        End of the road
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3692

                        #12
                        Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Yeah, i'm trying to figure out how many points hosts earn, if any. I kinda wanna say that it's 3? I don't know yet. Remember this is like super super Alpha version 0.00001



                        If I recall correctly, Jrodd suggested a meathod that 2+2 uses, where the farther along town got as a whole, they got more points. Like more points if team got to final 3. I'm trying to figure out how that might be able to fit in.

                        \ok\ is exactly how I would describe it atm. I'm slowly breaking down everything into its own section so I can adjust accordingly.
                        it was actually the opposite, like the quicker the town won the more points they got

                        Originally posted by FictionJunction
                        wow

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                        • _Zenith_
                          Accuracy Player
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 4629

                          #13
                          Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                          Originally posted by Xiz
                          So far this year there have been 1, so if I would add it in it would be to the main group.

                          Would jTWG's count as much as normal TWGs?
                          jTWG's are less stressful and more a learning/practice experience for real TWG games, and with that no, jTWG's should not count as much as normal games.

                          They should be counted as some modified number or half of the values of a normal game, and if I recall jTWG's are on the shorter time/shorter player count side of things which would warrant them lower in "value" than a normal TWG game.

                          EDIT: iirc there were single digit jTWG games (or it at least seemed so in the second half of the year/when I started to play) so if the general idea was revitalized so that there are more, then it should be its own like Makilaz stated or equal in value.
                          Last edited by _Zenith_; 03-21-2016, 12:59 PM.





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                          • Gradiant
                            FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1097

                            #14
                            Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                            Originally posted by Xiz
                            Would jTWG's count as much as normal TWGs?
                            Yep. Most of the jtwg games seem have a lot of vets anyway, isn't always majority newer members with only 1-2 vets.

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                            • Makilaz
                              TWG Princess
                              • May 2006
                              • 1094

                              #15
                              Re: TWG 2016 Ranked Test Thread

                              jtwg's should either count for ~1/2 of a normal game or be completely separate

                              junior games tend to be much simpler mechanically compared to "real" twg games regardless of how often veterans like to play in them

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