The Etterna Project

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  • veryoldman
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2008
    • 8

    #136
    Re: The Etterna Project

    Great build! Been using this religiously since you released the beta. I don't know if I overlooked this, but I've run into an issue. The files that I try to playtest my solo files in Etterna will only play the first draft of the file that was initially played in there and I can't "refresh" it to allow the newer updated versions to be played. Reload songs didn't help and there's no .old file in the folder. Is there an option that I didn't catch?

    K, so I just deleted my song cache and it updated, but this is kind of a slow process as I playtest really often. Is there an easier way to do this without having to delete the file from the cache every time I want to playtest an updated file? Again, I could be completely oblivious to some obvious way to do so, so please excuse me if there is.
    Last edited by veryoldman; 12-9-2016, 01:12 AM.

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    • MinaciousGrace
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2007
      • 4278

      #137
      Re: The Etterna Project

      control + shift + r with the relevant song selected at music select should do exactly what you want; one of the things I want to do later down the line is to bring visibility to the more useful but obscure features that the vanilla devs have implemented so perhaps the hard reload can be bound to double clicking on the selection or something similar

      e: actually what im saying im pretty sure f5 isn't bound to anything that would make so much more sense
      Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-9-2016, 07:47 AM.

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      • MinaciousGrace
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2007
        • 4278

        #138
        Re: The Etterna Project

        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
        so i poked around with this for a little bit and here's what I came up with; upon first moving a file/pack with only dwi files into your songs folder the game reads the dwi and converts them into .sm and drops them into their respective songs folders

        this process somehow manages to engage the calculator and properly cache the file without properly storing the results into the steps object, so when the theme tries to index the difficulties from the songs objects in memory there's an access violation crash

        on your subsequent load the files will instead be loaded from cache and they should work fine, even if you have caching disabled the game will search for the .sm it wrote to load from first before deferring to dwi

        tl;dr restarting the game should fix it and the files should be supported and i'll try to fix whatever is causing the crash (easiest way is just to initialize calculator results to 0s), if the game crashes after subsequent loads then there's a bigger problem which i can't reproduce
        ok i was 100% wrong about this, it'll be fixed properly in 0.52

        e: so it's kind of hard to tell what exactly is going on but basically the loading process will now convert all dwi files to .sm like I thought it did in the first place, though getting the files to load properly will require loading and caching the .dwi files first, letting it generate the .sm files, and then clearing the relevant cache files and letting it rebuild the cache again from the newly created .sm file

        this is obviously not an elegant solution but it'll work for now and hopefully I can figure out wtf is going on with their dwi loading system (and how we managed to break it) without much more effort
        Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 10:02 AM.

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        • Casey2069
          FFR Veteran
          • Sep 2016
          • 111

          #139
          Re: The Etterna Project

          Is there a way to delete a specific score so that my player rating goes down? I thought fail at end would give me a 0 ssr but it gave me 30 and now my rating is 22. Also is there a way to keep track of calories burned?
          http://i.imgur.com/8UE6ftw.gifv

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          • dadcop2
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2016
            • 229

            #140
            Re: The Etterna Project

            COMIC SAAAAAAAAAAAAANS

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            • MinaciousGrace
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2007
              • 4278

              #141
              Re: The Etterna Project

              Originally posted by Casey2069
              Is there a way to delete a specific score so that my player rating goes down? I thought fail at end would give me a 0 ssr but it gave me 30 and now my rating is 22. Also is there a way to keep track of calories burned?
              using fail at end should give a 0; if it doesn't that's a weird bug and I'll look into it

              currently there's no way to remove a specific score from your profile via the game interface, for now you can manually edit your stats.xml to remove any silly stuff provided you remember what you got it on

              i've been putting together things to view your 10 best scores and/or delete specific scores etc via the in game interface however they're unfinished and probably won't be packaged with the next release considering how much stuff i have to build

              the profile already keeps track of calories burned by default, with the assumption that you are playing with a dance pad

              the theme doesn't pull that information anywhere, but it is there
              Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 07:20 PM.

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              • Casey2069
                FFR Veteran
                • Sep 2016
                • 111

                #142
                Re: The Etterna Project

                Thanks for the quick reply! That's to bad there is no calories burned counter for keyboard play :'(
                Last edited by Casey2069; 12-11-2016, 07:42 PM.
                http://i.imgur.com/8UE6ftw.gifv

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                • MinaciousGrace
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 4278

                  #143
                  Re: The Etterna Project

                  well i mean i could fudge some numbers out of my ass and bake a cake with them, but it wouldn't really be helpful

                  my guess is you burn less than 5% of what you would playing on a keyboard as opposed to pad - but beyond that entirely baseless conjecture i don't really care to say
                  Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 08:02 PM.

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                  • Dinglesberry
                    longing
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 2679

                    #144
                    Re: The Etterna Project

                    just a suggestion, I think it'd be nice to consider some possible extra things for the song search, just simple things like perhaps being able to return songs greater than a certain length, or shorter... Lets say I want to play stamina files, I would just get all songs above x difficulty that are longer than however many minutes

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                    • Casey2069
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 111

                      #145
                      Re: The Etterna Project

                      I don't know much about the thermodynamics of the human body but maybe if Arch0wl sees this post he could figure it out will explain it.
                      Last edited by Casey2069; 12-11-2016, 08:31 PM.
                      http://i.imgur.com/8UE6ftw.gifv

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                      • lurker
                        ur worst nitemare
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1628

                        #146
                        Re: The Etterna Project

                        i too eagerly await more filtering options, this is getting a lil hype
                        some feathery f**k

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                        • Celirra
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 749

                          #147
                          Re: The Etterna Project

                          So, and I'm not sure if there's an easy way to implement this, or a good way to do such without slowdown, but is there any way to change the AA tracker (the + x.xx next to combo) so that instead of being based off 93% wife, it's based off your best wife %? Toggleable of course; I mostly think this'd be good for improving previous AA's as opposed to trying to remember you were +57.19 after 143 seconds of some JS file.

                          Also, one thing I miss about SCWH was an easy way to see the average NPS of a file, as well as the simfile author, etc on the song select screen... aka all the things that are hidden/incomplete with til' death. Any plans for this kind of update?


                          Also, ignore my previous issue with delay, it seems a-okay now.


                          Keep up the good work, friend.
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                          • MinaciousGrace
                            FFR Player
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 4278

                            #148
                            Re: The Etterna Project

                            yes to everything since my last post

                            although the cdtitle should accomplish displaying simfile author already

                            also i havent really planned out how to actually do the front end interface with more advanced search filters so it's very likely the initial implementation will be clunky as shit

                            ill mess with that tomorrow and you guys can probably expect 0.52 halfway through the week

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                            • Celirra
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 749

                              #149
                              Re: The Etterna Project

                              CDTitle thing is well and good, but its nice to be able to see the text version name of the simfile author too, like was available in scwh. Especially good for new charters with a non obvious cdtitle.
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                              • MinaciousGrace
                                FFR Player
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 4278

                                #150
                                Re: The Etterna Project

                                yeah i can do that, since i have to do something similar anyway in order to do search by simfile author
                                Last edited by MinaciousGrace; 12-11-2016, 09:49 PM.

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