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  • aj187
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2002
    • 74

    #1

    StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

    StepMania 5 Tournament Edition (SM5TE) is a modified version of StepMania 5 currently meant for "legit" scoring. (There are other plans, but I won't divulge them at this time.) To that end, the scoring system has been replaced with MIGS (Marvelous Incorporated Grading System), and Marvelous has been forced on. (Sorry, Pump players.)

    The changelog is available if you want to go in-depth.

    There's a preview video available here: http://youtu.be/JQnNu_o-7Ug

    I am open to suggestions about the theme (aside from "replace it with SMMAX"). I designed the gameplay screen based off of SMMAX in order to try and stop this suggestion before it starts.

    I'm also open to other suggestions, of course.

    @ssc_kki on Twitter
    StepMania 5 Themes available from spinal shark collective. Might also want to check the SM5 Theme Update.
  • Staiain
    Can't handle my ÆØÅ
    • Aug 2009
    • 4544

    #2
    Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

    Bumping this, because this is a good idea and I've suggested tons of features for online scoring/database, features etc

    Edit: replay data for top 10 scores on a online scoreboard should be made possible (I know this won't happen for a while but still adding it so I don' forget)
    Last edited by Staiain; 04-21-2012, 05:25 PM.






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    • C1004A
      Banned
      • Apr 2012
      • 197

      #3
      Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

      online scoring/database for SM.........

      with top 10 scores on an online scoreboard..........

      make it happen ;__;

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      • SasHiiiii
        FFR Player
        • Sep 2009
        • 164

        #4
        Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

        - Life and Judge should be like in 3.9
        - Online mode of course
        - Online database with highscores (If you play online, you scores are submitted automatically to the database. If you play offline, you can choose to submit your scores)
        - Download option for a song you lack online. So the host sends you the song via p2p and then you are ready to play without restarting SM
        - Replay function (You can save a replay of the song you just played and then you can upload the replay file wherever you want and people can watch it on their own SM, if they have the song)

        Pretty much what I had in mind what I'd like to see in the future

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        • aj187
          FFR Player
          • Dec 2002
          • 74

          #5
          Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

          Originally posted by C1004A
          online scoring/database for SM.........
          with top 10 scores on an online scoreboard..........
          make it happen ;__;
          Originally posted by SasHiiiii
          - Online database with highscores (If you play online, you scores are submitted automatically to the database. If you play offline, you can choose to submit your scores)
          it's planned.

          Originally posted by SasHiiiii
          - Life and Judge should be like in 3.9
          That's what I currently have the settings as but I'm guessing people are going to complain about the life again; I need proper evidence (and hopefully a fix) for it.

          Originally posted by SasHiiiii
          - Online mode of course
          This is planned, with a new underlying system.

          Originally posted by SasHiiiii
          - Download option for a song you lack online. So the host sends you the song via p2p and then you are ready to play without restarting SM
          This is the one thing I'm still unsure of at the moment.

          Originally posted by SasHiiiii
          - Replay function (You can save a replay of the song you just played and then you can upload the replay file wherever you want and people can watch it on their own SM, if they have the song)
          I've had this planned since around 2008/2009 but haven't found the time to code the replay playback engine yet :/

          edit: I should mention that the first release won't have all the planned features implemented; it's meant to be a test run for player feedback and tuning
          Last edited by aj187; 04-22-2012, 12:38 AM.

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          • Choofers
            FFR Player
            FFR Music Producer
            • Dec 2008
            • 6205

            #6
            Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

            Originally posted by SasHiiiii
            - Download option for a song you lack online. So the host sends you the song via p2p and then you are ready to play without restarting SM
            copyright issues might make this tough.

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            • ca25nada
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2007
              • 384

              #7
              Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

              Other than the ones listed above:

              Option to turn chord-cohesion off.
              Ability to map keysettings for different modes (singles/solo,etc.) separately.
              Merging of scores from the same simfile that are just in different packs.
              Search option on song select screen

              also,
              Originally posted by changelog
              * Disqualification now forced on.
              Does this mean any plays done with a c-mod will be disqualified?

              EDIT: added some more
              Last edited by ca25nada; 04-22-2012, 05:10 AM.
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              • C1004A
                Banned
                • Apr 2012
                • 197

                #8
                Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                wtf.. cmods are a must

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                • aj187
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 74

                  #9
                  Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                  Originally posted by ca25nada
                  Option to turn chord-cohesion off.
                  not as simple as everyone thinks it is to code.

                  Originally posted by ca25nada
                  Ability to map keysettings for different modes (singles/solo,etc.) separately.
                  already planned (as well as Staiain's suggestion of only having one keymapping per mode)

                  Originally posted by ca25nada
                  Merging of scores from the same simfile that are just in different packs.
                  I'll look into this.

                  Originally posted by ca25nada
                  Search option on song select screen
                  This is something that'll have to be added later... StepMania's input system is not conducive to having a search option at the moment.

                  Originally posted by ca25nada
                  Does this mean any plays done with a c-mod will be disqualified?
                  nah, it's the same as before; cmods won't disqualify on songs without (significant) BPM changes.

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                  StepMania 5 Themes available from spinal shark collective. Might also want to check the SM5 Theme Update.

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                  • codcrille
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 104

                    #10
                    Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                    Wouldnt it be better to have two separate high scores for files with huge BPM changes, one for cmod and one for xmod?

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                    • aj187
                      FFR Player
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 74

                      #11
                      Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                      I'll consider it. (I'm assuming m-mods would also count and have a separate score)

                      btw I fixed the life difficulty problem

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                      • Staiain
                        Can't handle my ÆØÅ
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 4544

                        #12
                        Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                        This is really good news about the lifedifficulty being fixed.




                        Also about X and C-mods, for songs that will be re-judged to be included in the score database, the judges have to determine if the song should have its own scoreboard for X-mod scores or if it simply is stepped without any intended gimmick bpm changes (or what do you think?)






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                        • igotrhythm
                          Fractals!
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 6535

                          #13
                          Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                          cmods not a DQ on songs without huge bpm changes. Does this mean you'd have to play Ren's Battle Ax on xmod due to stop gimmicks breaking up a section near the end that can just be hit as straight 16ths?
                          Originally posted by thesunfan
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                          • aj187
                            FFR Player
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 74

                            #14
                            Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                            Currently, yes.
                            DQ is being forced on for the initial release. Based on feedback, this may end up being user-configurable and any disqualification would happen elsewhere. (or if I implement different scores per speed mod type, then I just won't have CMods disqualify.)

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                            StepMania 5 Themes available from spinal shark collective. Might also want to check the SM5 Theme Update.

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                            • who_cares973
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 15407

                              #15
                              Re: StepMania 5 Tournament Edition

                              Cmod dq on for files with high bpm changes ESP since some songs have tons of bom changes but are the result of syncing

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