Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

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  • sevinon
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2017
    • 7

    #1

    Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

    I was wondering if there's any reason that saving is disabled for song rates above 1 (since they should only increase the difficulty relative to the nominal rating).

    I find it really pointless (and boring) playing through 90 second+ NPS<8 songs to fill out my average rank, but it's a lot of fun clearing the easiest songs at higher speeds.
  • Dinglesberry
    longing
    • Dec 2007
    • 2679

    #2
    Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

    because it makes it easier to AAA all the really easy songs that are long

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    • xXOpkillerXx
      Forever OP
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Dec 2008
      • 4207

      #3
      Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

      If you find it boring to improve your Average rank, which really isn't the main metric of skill at all, then don't improve it. There's no point in making rates above 1.0 count.

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      • SK8R43
        D7 Elite Keymasher
        • Jan 2008
        • 4683

        #4
        Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

        ...improving your average rank is the ONLY point of this game. Theres no reason to play it if you dont play all of the songs lol

        On the topic though, it has been discussed many times and majority of people say it shouldnt count for many reasons. For one it distorts the music and completely loses the whole point of the game, which is listening to the music. Secondly, it makes whoring the game that much easier. Theres probably other reasons that i cant think of ATM but you get the point.
        Thee Burstinator

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        • xXOpkillerXx
          Forever OP
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2008
          • 4207

          #5
          Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

          Originally posted by SK8R43
          ...improving your average rank is the ONLY point of this game. Theres no reason to play it if you dont play all of the songs lol

          On the topic though, it has been discussed many times and majority of people say it shouldnt count for many reasons. For one it distorts the music and completely loses the whole point of the game, which is listening to the music. Secondly, it makes whoring the game that much easier. Theres probably other reasons that i cant think of ATM but you get the point.
          Dude at times you should think a minute before submitting your posts, you seem to often be generating a lot of noise.

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          • rushyrulz
            Digital Dancing!
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 12985

            #6
            Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

            Imagine presenting your subjective reason for playing as objective fact and managing to contradict yourself all in in 100 words or less


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            • Josemba
              .
              • Nov 2011
              • 256

              #7
              Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

              The point of this game is making yourself an amazing profile.

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              • ositzxz369
                Venetian Snares stepper
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2008
                • 535

                #8
                Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                The point of this game is converting others into liking your musical taste (whether through the song itself or the steps).

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                • SK8R43
                  D7 Elite Keymasher
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4683

                  #9
                  Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                  The point of the game is listening to the music, aka playing all of the songs....why else are they in the game? So you can pick and choose 10 songs to make your level higher? LMAO no
                  Thee Burstinator

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                  • Matthia
                    🍍Pineapple Man🍍
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 511

                    #10
                    Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                    The point of the game is to get high level

                    Average rank is just an option for long-run players



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                    • sevinon
                      FFR Player
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                      Makes sense. I guess I'll go back to ignoring average rank then.

                      Thanks for the clarifications.

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                      • SK8R43
                        D7 Elite Keymasher
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4683

                        #12
                        Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                        Negative. Level is a fairly new thing. Average rank has always been here.
                        Thee Burstinator

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                        • psychoangel691
                          Retired Staff
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 10438

                          #13
                          Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                          Originally posted by SK8R43
                          The point of the game is listening to the music, aka playing all of the songs....why else are they in the game? So you can pick and choose 10 songs to make your level higher? LMAO no
                          No one is ever going to enjoy every song that's put into this game, it's silly to say the whole point of the game is to listen to -ALL- the songs. If it were just about listening to music I'd just use YouTube or Spotify.

                          Plus really, the "point" of this game can be different for different people. I enjoy tapping along to songs I like listening to, anything I don't is a chore for me. I'm not the type that cares to be the best of the best, but for others, the point of this game is to reach that level. Some people play for competition, some play just to have something to do with friends, some people are completionists that want every song played/FCed/AAAd whatever.
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                          • TheSaxRunner05
                            The Doctor
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 6144

                            #14
                            Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                            On a serious note, I do think Rates above 1x should count to increase enjoyment of the game. It gives another avenue to interact more with FFR and increase activity around here. I liked Etienne's video about rates awhile back, it had some good points.


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                            • Josemba
                              .
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 256

                              #15
                              Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                              I prefer a rate ranking like Etterna has

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