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  • mountain_dew17
    FFR Veteran
    • Jul 2006
    • 174

    #1

    Songs?

    Why does every song level 9 or higher must have jumps in the streams???? I'm just really curious....
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  • Kibblre
    Caelondia Represent
    • Jul 2004
    • 1984

    #2
    Re: Songs?

    Because that's what adds difficulty.
    Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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    • bmah
      shots FIRED
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      FFR Simfile Author
      Global Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 8448

      #3
      Re: Songs?

      Not every song does...but they're a lot more frequent because you're at a higher difficulty. Also, jumps are often the product of arrows going to multiple instruments in the music simultaneously. You can't expect linear steps as you play harder songs. This isn't DDR.
      Last edited by bmah; 01-29-2012, 10:07 PM.

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      • benguino
        Kawaii Desu Ne?
        • Dec 2007
        • 4185

        #4
        Re: Songs?

        Well the jumps in the streams in probably what makes the file a 9 or higher in the first place since it adds a bit of difficulty. Also, the jumps aren't there randomly, they are usually placed on emphasized beats of the stream.
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        • mountain_dew17
          FFR Veteran
          • Jul 2006
          • 174

          #5
          Re: Songs?

          Originally posted by justin_ator
          Taking out jumps in streams removes difficulty, if you want to keep difficulty without jumps, you end up with charts like Rave7, Reality, Eclipse (Solar), and Freedom DiVE...
          Which charts like that are mainly for one-handed or spread players.....Which is sort of unfair to the index and three fingered players...I'm just saying they need to add more arrows and less jumps.
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          • Xx{Midnight}xX
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2007
            • 8548

            #6
            Re: Songs?

            Originally posted by Kibblre
            Because that's what adds difficulty.
            This is just a silly uniformed statement. No offense intended.
            Originally posted by justin_ator
            Freedom DiVE...
            This song has a massive jumpstream in it are you nuts?

            Pretty much what Bmah said in short.

            But if you asked me: I gather from you even asking this you play index style. What sucks now days, is that index friendly charts pretty much never would make it through today's batch anymore [especially] at a higher difficulty because the recent stepping meta is Technicality > Everything.

            At least this is how I see it.

            Edit: In light of your recent post:

            Putting charts into the game is not about being fair to peoples play styles. If this was the case we'd have more charts like MAMA that are complete shit (sorry Hi19) lurking in this game being stupid and wrecking ranks. Though I will say I guess that point of view has some merit being that the largest portion of charts appeals to those of us who play spread.

            On a final note: As an ex Indexer myself, I understand exactly why you're asking such things. It's frustrating to know that you play a unique style that adds a new perspective to the game, and it's really unfortunate that there are less charts that cater to Index to keep it a viable style. Sadly I can only tell you this: You're forced into playing spread. The only thing to do now days is suck up whatever excuse you need to switch to spread and do it.
            Last edited by Xx{Midnight}xX; 01-29-2012, 10:28 PM.

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            • PrawnSkunk
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              FFR Simfile Author
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              • Dec 2007
              • 3907

              #7
              Re: Songs?

              Originally posted by mountain_dew17
              Which charts like that are mainly for one-handed or spread players.....Which is sort of unfair to the index and three fingered players...I'm just saying they need to add more arrows and less jumps.
              Jumpstream exists in DDR, so why not FFR? From glancing over this thread, it seems you are getting a little butthurt from a new skill that you are uncomfortable with. Not sure how to word this, but my advice: just think as the jumps as part of the stream. If you really want blah stream files, there are charts that pertain to this. iirc, I think Delirium is one of them.
              Last edited by PrawnSkunk; 01-29-2012, 10:27 PM.

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              • rushyrulz
                Digital Dancing!
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2006
                • 12985

                #8
                Re: Songs?

                Originally posted by justin_ator
                Freedom DiVE...
                Excuse me, what..?


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                • Kibblre
                  Caelondia Represent
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1984

                  #9
                  Re: Songs?

                  Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                  This is just a silly uniformed statement. No offense intended.
                  Woops, my once sentence statement wasn't enough to please Middie, master of stepcharts. Better go read a book.
                  Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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                  • mountain_dew17
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 174

                    #10
                    Re: Songs?

                    Originally posted by PrawnSkunk
                    Jumpstream exists in DDR, so why not FFR? .
                    I have played DDR for about 8 years and In the Groove for about 5 years and not once have i ever seen a jumpstream....The point i'm trying to get across is the step artists should not focus on one style of play.....More people would actually play the song more than once if it didn't have jumps within a 32nd burst of stream.
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                    • Zageron
                      Zageron E. Tazaterra
                      FFR Administrator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6592

                      #11
                      Re: Songs?

                      jump-stream is too hard. take out all the jumpstream or i'll ban jx

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                      • hi19hi19
                        lol happy
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 12194

                        #12
                        Re: Songs?

                        There are pure stream/index friendly difficult files. Play Monstrous Turtles, Over the Frail Dream, Purple, Reality... or basically anything pre-2008 that Rebirth0 stepped. He made a lot of indexable charts.


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                        • Kibblre
                          Caelondia Represent
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 1984

                          #13
                          Re: Songs?

                          Originally posted by mountain_dew17
                          I have played DDR for about 8 years and In the Groove for about 5 years and not once have i ever seen a jumpstream....The point i'm trying to get across is the step artists should not focus on one style of play.....More people would actually play the song more than once if it didn't have jumps within a 32nd burst of stream.
                          If we had 4 feet, we'd have jumpstream in DDR/ITG.

                          EDIT: Inb4 silly uninformed statement.
                          Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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                          • Xx{Midnight}xX
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 8548

                            #14
                            Re: Songs?

                            Originally posted by Kibblre
                            Woops, my once sentence statement wasn't enough to please Middie, master of stepcharts. Better go read a book.
                            If you're honestly as butt hurt as this implies: Yes your time is better spent reading a book.

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                            • Kibblre
                              Caelondia Represent
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1984

                              #15
                              Re: Songs?

                              Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                              If you're honestly as butt hurt as this implies: Yes your time is better spent reading a book.
                              Ah, I guess you're not as good at deciphering emotions as I thought. Psych 101.

                              OP, if you want less jumpstreams give SM a try. There are many index-based packs that are speedy without jumpstreams.
                              Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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