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  • hi19hi19
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #31
    Re: Rain

    Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
    Actually, Rain is 128 bpm which would make for 256 bpm 16ths, it's slightly slower than Reality.
    For some reason I thought it was 134 bpm lol. I stand corrected :P


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    • DossarLX ODI
      Batch Manager
      Game Manager
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2008
      • 14989

      #32
      Re: Rain

      By the way it's also important that by high FGO I mean by FFR standards. This game goes by combo based scoring and from what I have seen, jacks and trills with transitions at that speed give the community a lot of trouble. Compared to a high FGO like Rape on my Tournament Engine, Rain is easy.
      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #33
        Re: Rain

        I don't even consider Rain a high FGO by FFR's engine standards.

        I'm grouping files by difficulty based on what they contain in the file. 128 BPM 32nd streaming/trilling doesn't pan out as rough as 190 BPM 32nds that can't be cheated (Schmollbluk), or 250 BPM 16th/24th/wtfever color (grind2, although it's more of a mid FGO, really), or intermittent 32nd rolling with horrible transitions (DeVouR, again not hard, but harder to score on than Rain in terms of complexity).

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        • V-Ormix
          Banned
          • Aug 2008
          • 4677

          #34
          Re: Rain

          only thing fgoish is the trill section (kind of like holy orders but longer and there are more of them) the rest of it is high 11ish

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          • Xayphon
            sausage
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Nov 2008
            • 1630

            #35
            Re: Rain

            Patterns in the streams flow amazingly well \o\

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            • V-Ormix
              Banned
              • Aug 2008
              • 4677

              #36
              Re: Rain

              Originally posted by qqwref
              I think Rain should be a 11. Really, the stream isn't even that fast, and there are plenty of other 11s with trills about that speed. Honestly, if you can't hit them, then you just suck at this game and should work on your speed. I don't even know why there's a debate, this song is really easy and the only difficulty at all is the length, which is probably why nobody's bothered to AAA yet.
              yeah but the trills are way longer than most any other 32nd trills in any song in this game so that gives a low fgo spot at best. doing 32nd trills at that speed isnt hard but to hold long ones like that repeatedly is challenging (at least to me).

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              • icontrolyourworld
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                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2007
                • 4192

                #37
                Re: Rain

                think of rain as 256bpm 16th streams but with easy fun patterns
                for comparison reality is 259bpm 16ths streams

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                • V-Ormix
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 4677

                  #38
                  Re: Rain

                  Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
                  think of rain as 256bpm 16th streams but with easy fun patterns
                  for comparison reality is 259bpm 16ths streams
                  yeah the stream is insanely fun n_n

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                  • Altivu
                    FFR Player
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 65

                    #39
                    Re: Rain

                    Originally posted by stavie33
                    I've been stuck at a skill wall for 2 years, and if it's not my computer (which I play on a shitty, glitchy, freezy laptop that has half broken keys) then my physical ability has a limit.
                    Hi, I've been playing for over two years and I can't FC 8s yet.

                    But yes I understand your frustrations.

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                    • Ziergdsx18
                      ℜ1 ステップチャート 著者
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 2800

                      #40
                      Re: Rain

                      Originally posted by AlexDest
                      Practice on Cetaka's RAIN file for a while (has jumpstream in the 32nds, same length). Then play the one in the game, it'll be easier and maybe feel a bit slower because of your hands being more used to the enraging jumpstream in Cetaka's.
                      ^.

                      I don't think Chris could have made the patterns any more lenient on his file than they are right now
                      Last edited by Ziergdsx18; 12-30-2011, 08:46 PM.


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                      • TheSaxRunner05
                        The Doctor
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 6144

                        #41
                        Re: Rain

                        LoL at 256 bpm sixteenths being called easy
                        *Subjectivemanias*


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                        • who_cares973
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 15407

                          #42
                          Re: Rain

                          you're shit at this game and you'll never improve no matter what you try


                          there what you always wanted

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                          • Ziergdsx18
                            ℜ1 ステップチャート 著者
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 2800

                            #43
                            Re: Rain



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                            • DossarLX ODI
                              Batch Manager
                              Game Manager
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 14989

                              #44
                              Re: Rain

                              I'm also going to assume stavie thinks Rain is "harder" than Revolutionary Etude because I haven't taken the time to fix my blackflag but I AAA'd Revo, instead I've been working on Indeed

                              This is why you *never* use the "AAA" argument
                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                              • stavie33
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1925

                                #45
                                Re: Rain

                                Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                                I'm also going to assume stavie thinks Rain is "harder" than Revolutionary Etude because I haven't taken the time to fix my blackflag but I AAA'd Revo, instead I've been working on Indeed

                                This is why you *never* use the "AAA" argument
                                No I don't, Rev Etude and Crowdpleaser are two FGO's that shouldn't be FGO's, they are stupid files, I'm for both being 13's or just Revo.

                                Also @TC and Dossar, I don't consider it high FGO because you guys haven't AAA'd or because it's patterns, it's just a file I'm extremely bad at, worse than 8 bit tour. I'd pull a better score on 8 bit tour than Rain anyday, but that's just me. It's a file that I'm particularly bad at. I was just wondering if it's just me who doesn't have this speed and it's moderate for the rest of the community yet tricky (which seems to be the case), or it really is that fast and awkward. It really is just me then, so I think it's SUBJECTIVELY a high FGO because I literally can't do anything in the file except the trills. Objectively, I'm really not good enough to say or determine, as you've seen by my apparent gross exaggeration of it's difficulty due to my lack of speed. That's why I came to ask you guys.
                                Last edited by stavie33; 12-31-2011, 09:32 AM.
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