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  • neodarkmagicianking
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2004
    • 53

    #436
    Re: FFR Standalone!

    I think it's just time for me to give up on FFR. This game needs a complete rewrite in something that's not damn flash. Tried every standalone. Tried every browser. Tried HW accel on, off, doesn't matter. Some games it's perfectly smooth. Some it stutters like crazy. In Chrome to "prevent" stuttering, it'll just lock the framerate at something god awful like 15.

    I should have no trouble playing this game. Why can I play The Witcher 3 at max settings at 1080p at 4 times the framerate?

    This game is some serious nostalgia for me, and I want to come back to play it occasionally, but there's just no way I can even try to improve my skills at this point.

    For reference...
    Windows 10 x64
    16gb memory
    i5 6600k cpu
    r9 390 gpu

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    • Rapta
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1948

      #437
      Re: FFR Standalone!

      Originally posted by neodarkmagicianking
      I think it's just time for me to give up on FFR. This game needs a complete rewrite in something that's not damn flash. Tried every standalone. Tried every browser. Tried HW accel on, off, doesn't matter. Some games it's perfectly smooth. Some it stutters like crazy. In Chrome to "prevent" stuttering, it'll just lock the framerate at something god awful like 15.

      I should have no trouble playing this game. Why can I play The Witcher 3 at max settings at 1080p at 4 times the framerate?

      This game is some serious nostalgia for me, and I want to come back to play it occasionally, but there's just no way I can even try to improve my skills at this point.

      For reference...
      Windows 10 x64
      16gb memory
      i5 6600k cpu
      r9 390 gpu

      Your computer is only slightly weaker than mine (same x64 and ram and i5) so I don't see why you get lag and I get no lag whatsoever
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      • JonEcks
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2014
        • 7

        #438
        Re: FFR Standalone!

        I support this so much, It would be so cool to see a standalone on Steam or something !

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        • Dinglesberry
          longing
          • Dec 2007
          • 2679

          #439
          Re: FFR Standalone!

          Guys can we just like, make a way for scores to submit from stepmania to FFR?

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          • DossarLX ODI
            Batch Manager
            Game Manager
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2008
            • 14989

            #440
            Re: FFR Standalone!

            The Indeed Engines hosted files specifically for Team Indeed and Dossar's tournaments, although they were taken down. The R^3 xml links are available below:
            Team Indeed Engine R^3 xml
            Dossar Tournament Engine R^3 xml

            I also updated the OP with this information (Team Indeed section).
            Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 08-7-2016, 02:07 PM.
            Originally posted by hi19hi19
            oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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            • CocoaPuff3100
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2011
              • 43

              #441
              Re: FFR Standalone!

              Just wanted to post that I got this working in linux (ubuntu 14.04) with wine. Despite the standalone links for linux in the OP and on Adobe's website, I didn't have any luck with getting it to run natively, but wine is surprisingly smooth.

              You can always first try downloading flash 11 for linux (just extract it and run the file, presumably), but it didn't work for me and I looked it up and others have encountered problems as well, so if that doesn't work, try this out.

              Running FFR Standalone on Linux using Wine

              Step 1: Download the Windows flash player version of your choice.

              a) Flash 8
              b) Flash 9
              c) Flash 10
              d) Flash 11
              e) Flash 12
              f) Flash 13
              g) Flash 14
              h) Flash 15
              i) Flash 16

              I got flash 9 because it's said to have the least problems, but you need 10 or above for rates. I'm fairly sure that any version will work, but some may run better or worse for you.

              Depending on which one you get, you'll download either a .zip or an .exe. If it's a .zip, extract it and browse to the folder with flashplayer_x_sa.exe.

              Step 2: Install and configure Wine

              To check if you already have wine, right click your flash exe and see if there's an option to open it with Wine Windows Program Loader. If there is, skip to step 3. If not, we'll install it now.

              You can choose to install wine through the terminal or the software centre, but you'll have to use the terminal to configure wine, so I would recommend installing through there as well, seems a bit easier.

              Installing Wine through the terminal:

              1. Open a terminal (ctrl+alt+T).
              2. Run the following commands:
              Code:
              sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wine/wine-builds
              3.
              Code:
              sudo apt-get update
              4.
              Code:
              sudo apt-get install wine
              5.
              Code:
              winecfg
              6. A window will appear with wine configuration options, but you don't need to change anything here, so you can exit that and the terminal.

              OR

              Installing Wine through Ubuntu Software Centre:

              1. Search for wine in the software centre.
              2. Install Wine Windows Program Loader.
              3. Open a terminal (ctrl+alt+T).
              4. Run
              Code:
              winecfg
              5. Again, no need to change anything in this window, so close both at this point.

              Step 3: Running Flash

              Go back to your flash exe and right click it. You should now see an option to open it with Wine Windows Program Loader. If it's not there, look under the "open with" menu. Once you open it, the flashplayer window should appear.

              Step 4: Loading FFR

              The R^3 engine link is here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/~velocity/R%5E3.swf

              The rest can be found in the OP.

              Copy the link to the FFR engine you want. If you are using R^3, you must first set up the main FFR R^3 swf linked above. Additional engines will be added through R^3. However, if you're using legacy or velocity, you can use the swfs to alternate engines linked in the OP, but you will most likely still want to put the main FFR swf in first.

              In the flashplayer window, go to File > Open and put in the URL. FFR should run now.

              Step 4.5 (optional): Adding other engines in R^3

              Go to Options, Other Options, and click the engine playlist dropdown. From there you can add the xml links to other R^3 engines.

              Step 5: Making an executable

              In the flash menu bar, go to File > Create projector. Name and save the file somewhere easily accessible like the desktop. This is what you'll click to run FFR.

              The first time you run the executable, you may need to right click, open with, and choose Wine. That will set it as the default program, and then you're done!

              If you have any questions or run into problems, please let me know.

              I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and wine 1.6.2 (old version lol). The instructions I gave should install a newer version of wine, but that shouldn't matter. My laptop is pretty mediocre, but it runs 60fps with no lag. Wine isn't as resource-intensive as it sounds so don't be afraid to try it out.

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              • 2EdgedVictory
                FFR Veteran
                • Aug 2007
                • 173

                #442
                Re: FFR Standalone!

                Can anyone find a link for the flash 18 standalone? I have not found one. It looks like standalone flash was discontinued after this one and this one is the newest standalone version.

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                • Soundwave-
                  Carry your failures proud
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 644

                  #443
                  Re: FFR Standalone!

                  Current standalone flashplayer ("projector"): http://www.adobe.com/support/flashpl...downloads.html

                  Archived flashplayers: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player...-versions.html
                  Last edited by Soundwave-; 05-27-2017, 01:03 AM.
                  Originally posted by [11:38 PM] Hakulyte
                  only person who can legit tilt me is like YoshL
                  Originally posted by スンファンさん
                  右に3回回らない限り間違います。

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                  • avadram
                    Custom User Title
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 103

                    #444
                    Re: FFR Standalone!

                    Does flash player 8 standalone even exist? Just curious how FFR would work on that
                    The one on the adobe site is not standalone

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                    • Soundwave-
                      Carry your failures proud
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 644

                      #445
                      Re: FFR Standalone!

                      The archive contains the standalone player if a standalone player exists for that version.
                      Originally posted by [11:38 PM] Hakulyte
                      only person who can legit tilt me is like YoshL
                      Originally posted by スンファンさん
                      右に3回回らない限り間違います。

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                      • avadram
                        Custom User Title
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 103

                        #446
                        Re: FFR Standalone!

                        Well 9 and above has a standalone player
                        8 doesn't

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                        • Soundwave-
                          Carry your failures proud
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 644

                          #447
                          Re: FFR Standalone!

                          Then I can only conclude that version 8 never had a standalone player.
                          Originally posted by [11:38 PM] Hakulyte
                          only person who can legit tilt me is like YoshL
                          Originally posted by スンファンさん
                          右に3回回らない限り間違います。

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                          • gabrieljd
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 259

                            #448
                            Re: FFR Standalone!

                            It does exist, I have it. Don't remember where I got it from though.

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                            • avadram
                              Custom User Title
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 103

                              #449
                              Re: FFR Standalone!

                              no idea where this is from

                              there is also this one that is not macromedia's but it doesn't seem to work it just loads my installed flash player instead of 8 - I dragged the swf to the executable to open it...

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                              • Soundwave-
                                Carry your failures proud
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 644

                                #450
                                Re: FFR Standalone!

                                It may be possible to find/hack together a flash 8 compliant standalone player, but an official one likely does not exist.

                                EDIT: The original Macromedia standalone player was never distributed individually. You can try installing Flash 8 and seeing if it's still packaged, otherwise best of luck finding it.
                                Last edited by Soundwave-; 05-28-2017, 12:56 AM.
                                Originally posted by [11:38 PM] Hakulyte
                                only person who can legit tilt me is like YoshL
                                Originally posted by スンファンさん
                                右に3回回らない限り間違います。

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