Noteskin Poll

[stargroup]

Re: Noteskin Poll

Star, just open your mind a little. You're making the chance for great diversity on a game into a singular mode of play. There's where FFR loses its interest. You're stuck with their single noteskin, single form of menu style, single EVERYTHING. Don't be like FFR. You want something individual from everything else in the industry, let it be anything anyone chooses it to be. Allow for customization.

You don't get it. I want people to have as much customization power as possible, it's just this ONE option I'm not happy about.

It simply doesn't make sense to have directionals when you're playing spread, and too many people associate this game with DDR. This is why I want to abolish the arrow noteskin. However, since people do want it and I don't want to alienate players, I was thinking about adding it temporarily.

But that's as far as I go. I'm already being super lenient.

[Bluearrowll]

Re: Noteskin Poll

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[Phynx]

Re: Noteskin Poll

You don't get it. I want people to have as much customization power as possible, it's just this ONE option I'm not happy about.

It simply doesn't make sense to have directionals when you're playing spread, and too many people associate this game with DDR. This is why I want to abolish the arrow noteskin. However, since people do want it and I don't want to alienate players, I was thinking about adding it temporarily.

But that's as far as I go. I'm already being super lenient.

Well if it's gonna be a temporary thing then just don't even add it. That's just shell shocking the players who get used to solo with arrows then forcing them to jump to an unfamiliar noteskin. It's making them re-learn the visual stimuli of the accuracy or hit window. So you might as well not add the arrows and just throw whatever else noteskins at people so they don't get screwed by learning on arrows first.

[stargroup]

Re: Noteskin Poll

alright so here's the results

apparently about 1/5 of the people will NOT use anything but arrows, and 1/4 (including that 1/5) would much prefer to use arrows.

now the question becomes, is the concept of breaking away from arrows worth sacrificing 1/5-1/4 of the community?

[OneHandNow]

Re: Noteskin Poll

HAVE BOTH OPTIONS. Solved..

[Patashu]

Re: Noteskin Poll

dude just have an option to use the arrows lmao, and leave orbuluur or something as default

[stargroup]

Re: Noteskin Poll

you guys don't get the point

we need to break away from this

arrows are a plague

I'm being pretty serious

[Xiaounlimited]

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you guys don't get the point

we need to break away from this

arrows are a plague

I'm being pretty serious

you don't get the point

you need to break away from this

your bias is a plague

I'm being pretty serious





No really, stop posting in this thread for the night. Let it percolate in your head for a day.

[Phynx]

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dude just have an option to use the arrows lmao, and leave orbuluur or something as default

I SAID THIS SAME THING TO HIM HARHAR! Funny. We all think alike XD

[Plan_Bsk81127]

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I like the arrows, I can read them better then the orbular and especially the bars.

If arrows cant stay, I guess Im not going to be playing FFR 6 keys and just have to stick to SM where I have the choice.

Why cant you just make it an option. Better to do that so you dont lose the players who prefer arrows. You want this thing to grow, not die, do just add the option to choose.

[Xiaounlimited]

Re: Noteskin Poll

Star, as it stands, your argument is faulty at best. Your entire (yes, entire) argument revolves around this concept:

Arrows don't even make sense for keyboard simulation! This should be entirely about keyboard play, so arrows should be removed. You don't play on pad, so it should all be non-directional notes!

It reminds people of DDR, and that's not what we want!

The keyboard simulation you're after is based off of DDR Solo/FFR/SM. If you had started off with an entirely original concept and marketed it off on your own WITHOUT pulling from the FFR userbase, that's another thing all on its own. That's not the case.

(22:46:06) Phynx: With ANY OTHER rhythm game
They weren't created out of a userbase

This virtually makes your point moot. If arrows are stagnant and obsolete, why continue to use an FFR-style engine? Why not just convert your original KeyBeat idea into an engine of its own and start a userbase there? Make your own viral ads without the use of FFR, hm? Do you realize where you're pulling the community from?

Also realize other people who play with arrows may not post (often or at all), or have voted; the sample on this poll may not be an accurate representation at all. Things CAN spread by word of mouth and this thread may slip by someone who plays FFR6k as a pastime, but never posts about it. These people are still players. Whether or not they play seriously, they are still part of the userbase and are still capable of propogating it further through communicating to others.

If it reminds people of DDR, so what? If they don't like the game, they won't play it. It still serves as a method of pulling in interested users whether you like that fact or not.

When you break it down to the end result, you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. To be blunt, the only thing that's being broken or lost here is your own ego, and the "image" YOU personally want. I can understand that might hurt your pride, but fact stands:

Games that are by a user, for the users, and virtually run by the users, are always more successful than close-ended ones.



Hueg post. tl;dr, I don't care, I posted what I wanted to

[Phynx]

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No arrows guys. Go home. :/

[Xiaounlimited]

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No arrows guys. Go home. :/

There is no home to go to it's even bleaker than the future ;___;

[Phynx]

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There is no home to go to it's even bleaker than the future ;___;

Yeah... I see white screens *cries in a corner rocking back and forth* the white.... screen..... no........................................................ home......

[Phynx]

Re: Noteskin Poll

[email protected] says:
ok I have decided

[email protected] says:
Then at least let everyone in the tourney finish the tourney with arrows.

[email protected] says:
oh damn I forgot about this
yeah I'll do that
but yeah
we're removing arrows

[email protected] says:
Sorry to hear that.
Really i am

[email protected] says:
I know
it pains me to say it
it really does
but in the end
I feel like if this game is going to go where it needs to go
then I need to take the initiative

[email protected] says:
But you left FFR and SM communities behind

[email protected] says:
possibly
but I'm hoping that overall
we'll be moving forward
besides
although most of our initial community will come from ffr/sm

[email protected] says:
Hoping is a long stretch to base luck on

[email protected] says:
we'll ultimately create our own fanbase
so hopefully
everything will work out

[email protected] says:
Why limit a "new" fanbase to some 1 or 2 thousand people IFFFFF THAAAAT where you could have the 80+ thousand players that use the FFR engine.

[email protected] says:
the majority of people who voted
said they are fine with switching a noteskin
I am confident it won't be THAT deterimental

[email protected] says:
Failure in fanbase will tell otherwise. That's how it is with every business.

[email protected] says:
we'll see
worst comes to worse

[email protected] says:
Yeah
We will

[email protected] says:
we'll just add it





;_;