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  • stargroup
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2007
    • 974

    #1

    Noteskin Poll

    For the FFR 6 key engine, we're thinking about eliminating the arrow noteskin completely, but we are worried about whether or not it will alienate users. As a result, we have made this poll.

    Do some of you need to have arrows, or are you fine with switching to something new?
    42
    Yes, I would like it very much.
    0%
    22
    I would like to, if given the chance.
    0%
    10
    Perhaps sometime in the future.
    0%
    2
    No, I prefer to stick to arrows.
    0%
    8
    (´・ω・`)
  • bender5
    The 40% Iron Chef
    • Jan 2005
    • 4894

    #2
    Re: Noteskin Poll

    Arrows have always been my personal favorite for 4 arrow, but for 6 key it makes sense to use bars or whatever.

    The diagonal arrows are kind of dumb, so a change probably wouldn't be that bad.

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    • gnr61
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 7251

      #3
      Re: Noteskin Poll

      bars are a better representation but i can only read arrows D:
      is there no way to implement a mod that can switch back and forth
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      • Phynx
        I'm Forever
        • Mar 2007
        • 3003

        #4
        Re: Noteskin Poll

        Well as my argument goes, give the option to choose whatever skin you want, as you can with SM. Now I know you want to make this into a whole different style game but the overlying concept is the same. You can do as you wish but at least give the options to the users, not the creators. Simple law of business really. You listen to their suggestions and if enough wish to have it, make it happen. You really can't go wrong by pleasing everyone rather than pleasing a select group of people.

        P.S. - For people like me, it's not the directions that dictate why arrows work for me. I play 4-key and 6-key with FFR-Note SOLELY because of the visual accuracy I have placed by associating with only arrowed keys. Plus, FFR-Note helps me because the colors are not so bright and annoying and they don't become a detriment to my eyes.

        My final conclusion, a.k.a. my opinion, allow for the options to be with the members. And for people like me who enjoy FFR-Note or any note for that matter based on the reasons I mentioned above, make an arrowed noteskin similar but your own style based on whatever style yours may be.
        Last edited by Phynx; 09-13-2009, 12:28 PM.
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        • dore
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          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Feb 2006
          • 6317

          #5
          Re: Noteskin Poll

          it's a lot easier to learn a music game if the columns have some sort of separation from each other. if you were to go about that by having GH/PIU/whatever style bars with a different color for each column, that would work too. but I think arrows are good to have, because until people get the muscle memory to play 6 key as opposed to 4 key it's nice to have some sort of easy distinguishing factor so that it's harder to get disoriented.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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          • Phynx
            I'm Forever
            • Mar 2007
            • 3003

            #6
            Re: Noteskin Poll

            Originally posted by dore
            it's a lot easier to learn a music game if the columns have some sort of separation from each other. if you were to go about that by having GH/PIU/whatever style bars with a different color for each column, that would work too. but I think arrows are good to have, because until people get the muscle memory to play 6 key as opposed to 4 key it's nice to have some sort of easy distinguishing factor so that it's harder to get disoriented.
            Agreed! I support that fact to based on how biased my ability to play arrows over other skins is. I don't want to downplay notebar but I DO use it on occasion in SM, rarely but still do, so I'm not completely out of its loop but my ability to play with notebar fell sharply as opposed to the arrows.
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            • TC_Halogen
              Rhythm game specialist.
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2008
              • 19376

              #7
              Re: Noteskin Poll

              Just make it an option. Eliminating it completely could keep people away from it because they aren't used to reading normal arrow noteskins. It's a nice benefit to have the bars though.

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              • Wineandbread
                Custom User Title
                • Oct 2007
                • 2105

                #8
                Re: Noteskin Poll

                Call me dumb, but how is the first option different from the second one?

                I think implementing choices for noteskins would be best, but that might make it "too much like SM oh noes"
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                • Phynx
                  I'm Forever
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 3003

                  #9
                  Re: Noteskin Poll

                  Star, I like the idea of individualizing this game apart from most other rhythm games and I would go as far as to endorse the idea. But for the sake of the users, leave the customization options up to them. Where I think you'd show the most individualization in it is how you scored(judged) the way people played the game. If you have a completely unique way of scoring, that alone is enough to set your game off from the rest of the herd.
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                  • OneHandNow
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 5305

                    #10
                    Re: Noteskin Poll

                    Have both options.




                    But anything above 4key should have barnotes.. (it makes it easier/less frustrating for people.)

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                    • Phynx
                      I'm Forever
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 3003

                      #11
                      Re: Noteskin Poll

                      Originally posted by OneHandNow
                      But anything above 4key should have barnotes.. (it makes it easier/less frustrating for people.)
                      Opinion. It in fact does not make it easier for some people. Dore explained it best.
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                      • stargroup
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 974

                        #12
                        Re: Noteskin Poll

                        Originally posted by dore
                        if you were to go about that by having GH/PIU/whatever style bars with a different color for each column, that would work too.
                        yeah we were thinking about doing this as yet another option
                        (´・ω・`)

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                        • Superfreak04
                          D7 Elite Keymasher
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2407

                          #13
                          Re: Noteskin Poll

                          I prefer those orbular noteskins. I'm talking about those circle ones.

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                          • jugglinguy
                            Use me as a porta-potty
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 4319

                            #14
                            Re: Noteskin Poll

                            Just make an option for it to make everyone very happy. Newer players have a hard enough time figuring out which note to hit and eliminating any real difference in column shapes just adds to the problem. At least in my experience.
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                            • Phynx
                              I'm Forever
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 3003

                              #15
                              Re: Noteskin Poll

                              Originally posted by 0
                              I like the idea of having a choice to pick different noteskins

                              also +1 support for putting the arrows in the right order
                              Really, I like the diagonals on the outside. I've played solo in SM a lot and the diagonals in the middle are just BLEH! But I'm just one man. Haha, Star! Have blast make it so IF we do have arrow noteskins, we can move them in any order we want. Another option anyway.
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