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  • dm47
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2007
    • 14

    #1

    [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

    So.... I've noticed recently that my right hand trills are, for some reason, much worse than my left hand trills. Being right handed, I never thought this would be the case...

    I've asked around but didn't get any concrete answers, so I'm coming to you guys. I know one of the biggest factors is how relaxed your hand/fingers are, and I try to relax my right hand as much as possible but it still pails in comparison to my left hand's relaxation/fluency.

    Also, I've been trying to analyze the problem for some time now, and I've come to notice that I think the problem lies in my right hand index finger. Because when I try to trill for an extended period of time, that finger quickly becomes unable to continue the trill, and just sort of dies. Also, that finger doesn't raise itself as high off the keys as my left hand index does.

    So, I guess I'm wondering where the strength for trills actually comes from, and how I might be able to build up some muscle or something. I've also considered filming my right hand actually doing trills so people would be able to see how dumb it is. I might do that in the near future.

    Cheers,

    p.s. Someone mentioned that my left hand might have a better "spazzing" mechanism than my right hand, implying less control, but faster trills. Have any of you guys experienced this?
  • Patashu
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    • Apr 2006
    • 8609

    #2
    Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

    Likely if you just practice trills a lot you'll get better at trilling.
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    • [TeRa]
      FFR Player
      • May 2007
      • 9922

      #3
      Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

      Yeah, just play songs with right handed trills. Overtime you'll get better at them.
      Also try just trilling on a desk or something even when you're not playing.
      Last edited by [TeRa]; 01-24-2009, 04:44 PM.

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      • EAGAMES
        Y0FACE!
        • Dec 2006
        • 4931

        #4
        Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

        I have this problem, too. I'm trying to get my right hand to be as "spazzy" as my left, but I can't find a way to do so, which is killing me. Practicing right handed trills isn't helping at all.
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        Round 5: Hardkore Atomic (4.0.0.1)
        Round 6: Blue Rose (2.0.0.0)
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        Originally posted by smartdude1212
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        • Breakdown16
          FFR Veteran
          • Sep 2007
          • 1938

          #5
          Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

          I'd say for most songs, control over your trilling is more important than being able trill fast.

          Also, fingerweights. Cheap way to trill/jack quickly
          Last edited by Breakdown16; 01-24-2009, 06:37 PM.


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          • dm47
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 14

            #6
            Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

            @ Tera: the thing is... when i play songs with right handed trills, i can't do them, like... at all. So i don't feel like playing those songs is even helping me, but that could be completely wrong. Also, I do try and practice on desks at school and stuff (I've actually had people ask me what I'm doing, lol). But I guess I need to make the habit a lot more common, if I ever want to see any real results.

            @ EA: It's nice to know that someone else is having a similar problem. When I try to explain this to other people they have no idea what I'm talking about. Like yourself, I've tried practicing my right hand trills, but I don't think it's helping at all. And I have no idea where to even start, trying to make my right hand more "spazzy". I feel like I need to go see a surgeon or something.
            "Cut open my right hand and make sure everything in there is the same as my left hand pls"

            @ Breakdown: that's actually not a bad idea.. I'm trying to think of things to use. AAA batteries maybe?

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            • BigBoss37
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1099

              #7
              Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

              Finger weights....would that actually work? LOL

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              • Breakdown16
                FFR Veteran
                • Sep 2007
                • 1938

                #8
                Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                I've actually heard that pianists can improve their jacking and trilling abilities like this; why shouldn't the same idea apply to FFR/SM? And yeah, something small but dense would be best.


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                • EAGAMES
                  Y0FACE!
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 4931

                  #9
                  Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                  Yes, I don't know where to start, either. I've though about the surgeon thing before. xD

                  brb finding AA batteries and tape.
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                  Round 1: Novo Mundo (AAA)
                  Round 2: 4 Chord Touhou (AAA)
                  Round 3: October (1.0.0.1)
                  Round 4: Silly Symphony (1.0.0.0)
                  Round 5: Hardkore Atomic (4.0.0.1)
                  Round 6: Blue Rose (2.0.0.0)
                  Round 7: La Dump (Eliminated for being lazy.)
                  Originally posted by smartdude1212
                  EA will wander into his house with twenty minutes remaining in the round, load up FFR, realize he needs to ****, go to do so, discover he's hungry, whip up a gourmet meal, return to FFR with five minutes to go, play la camp once, and missflag on the 2154th arrow because scythe of 13 is watching him

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                  • stavie33
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 1925

                    #10
                    Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                    I agree, I didn't understand either, I thought it was just me, but right hand trills are sooo much harder than left hand ones for me, I'd have to say right handed ones are 15x harder than left ones for me (I can trill like no tomorrow with my left hand), I'm glad I'm not the only one!
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                    • who_cares973
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 15407

                      #11
                      Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                      i cant trill or jack at all with my left hand ;_;

                      also brb getting tape and batteries

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                      • roundb0x
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 533

                        #12
                        Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                        work on ya dexterity dog

                        just play the game more -________________________-;; no mrrubix ghostjumping chrono trigger 0-framer AAA bs moustache theory is going to help you trill better
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                        • Patashu
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 8609

                          #13
                          Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                          so wait

                          I tape batteries to the bottoms (tops?) of my fingers
                          then repeatedly try to trill/jack?
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                          • Sprite-
                            HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 7316

                            #14
                            Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                            I have this same exact problem. I have no difficulty in trilling with my left hand, but my right hand just dies. I'd assume that by being right-handed I'd be better at right-handed trills =/

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                            • EAGAMES
                              Y0FACE!
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 4931

                              #15
                              Re: [Help] FFR Trills (right hand)

                              Originally posted by Patashu
                              so wait

                              I tape batteries to the bottoms (tops?) of my fingers
                              then repeatedly try to trill/jack?
                              You tape the batteries to the top of your fingers, I think.

                              Guys, I found the batteries thanks to my TV remote, but I CAN'T FIND TAPE!!!
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                              Round 1: Novo Mundo (AAA)
                              Round 2: 4 Chord Touhou (AAA)
                              Round 3: October (1.0.0.1)
                              Round 4: Silly Symphony (1.0.0.0)
                              Round 5: Hardkore Atomic (4.0.0.1)
                              Round 6: Blue Rose (2.0.0.0)
                              Round 7: La Dump (Eliminated for being lazy.)
                              Originally posted by smartdude1212
                              EA will wander into his house with twenty minutes remaining in the round, load up FFR, realize he needs to ****, go to do so, discover he's hungry, whip up a gourmet meal, return to FFR with five minutes to go, play la camp once, and missflag on the 2154th arrow because scythe of 13 is watching him

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