Evolution of FFR

[YoshL]

Re: Evolution of FFR

01-25-2007, 10:39 AM was my first post hmm

[Charu]

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FFRSpace

[Crazyjayde]

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I don't have my research docs right now since I'm away but I figured I could leave some stuff I remember stumbling upon:

By exploring Xqsite from this date onward you'll discover most of the info regarding site development:

http://web.archive.org/web/20021125024605/http://xqsite.com/

thewerewolfgame.com mirror should also work.

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Nestlekwik's offshoot fansite is amazingly still up on Geocities and can be browsed for some giggles:

http://www.geocities.ws/ffrsatelite/mainpage.html

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Our forums still keeps mostly everything archived (thanks to Synth), there are some goodies you can find in earlier, more simple times:

On the converter:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...thread.php?t=2
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hread.php?t=21
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hread.php?t=99

On the site:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...read.php?t=189
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ead.php?t=1200

You get the idea.

[dAnceguy117]

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Were Hyrogashi's files really made in Notepad?

No doubt. From what I can recall, it was common practice in the days before the first release of StepMania featuring a built-in editor.

What was the goal of Arch0wl's Revolutionary Etude file?

He wanted to make a hard simfile, for sure, but the disparity in difficulty between Revolutionary Etude and files like Chrono Trigger wasn't too drastic at the time. A bunch of files had 0-framer issues which went unfixed for a while, so when you pair that with the avmiss glitch, they were impossible to full combo. The timing windows also used to be way tighter. At least in my eyes, Revolutionary Etude didn't stand out from other legacy files in terms of difficulty the way it does now. (There's also that whole deal with the converter creating more jacks than was intended.)

I can't tell if Synthlight put every file he recieved into the game. Did rejects exist?

As far as I know, Synthlight didn't manage any kind of submission system open to the average user or anything like that. My guess would be that the site's few "power users" at the time would just send him messages asking him to put their simfiles in the game, and if Synth liked what he saw, he would oblige.

[YoshL]

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and probably because it was so tedious to do files in notepad, any and all files would have been welcome at that point

[noname219]

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Nestlekwik's offshoot fansite is amazingly still up on Geocities and can be browsed for some giggles:
http://www.geocities.ws/ffrsatelite/mainpage.html

First two files Nestlekwik ever made are still possible to download apparently.

[bmah]

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What was the goal of Arch0wl's Revolutionary Etude file?

I believe the goal of Revolutionary Etude was to have bragging rights for the hardest file in the game - as a result of a contest held amongst the few steppers during that time. Rev Etude was just one of the products of this "competition", with Caprice and Molto Vivace being others.

[Crazyjayde]

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As far as I know, Synthlight didn't manage any kind of submission system open to the average user or anything like that. My guess would be that the site's few "power users" at the time would just send him messages asking him to put their simfiles in the game, and if Synth liked what he saw, he would oblige.

That might have been the idea in the early days until the forums were launched and people addressed their desire for more content. Only back then, the concept of a stepfile might have been just out of reach of the common player. "Power users" I'd prefer to refer as those who came around with a more competent background in rhythm gaming; but in no way was the procedure exclusive to them. I'd rather say they're the ones who sparked an interest for stepping to the userbase. See here:

"To make FFR songs is somewhat difficult. To convert them from .DWI is much easier. I will be working on a tutorial very soon but you may want to save your files out of stepmania or DWI as a .dwi file and send them to me. My converter is shakey but it works [...]" -Synthlight

Early on, there's even at some point somebody complaining about legacy files doubles and Synth reaching out and proposing him to modify his Notepad files. Not hard to guess how it went.

[gold stinger]

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Not sure if it was mentioned or not after skimming over the thread quickly, but if you're looking at potentially removed/missing songs, I remember there being a nyan cat song that was released as an april fools joke along with wimper wall. There was a contest for who could rack up the highest combo on the song, as the song was 23 seconds long and repeated indefinitely until you ran out of health. Hakulyte won the contest iirc.

The song is entirely different from the current nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! in the engine.

[Charu]

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Middie made that chart I believe

[Riotpolice]

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I hope this thread doesn't die, it was really interesting and I hope it keeps going. DONT LET THE ONLY THREAD I READ LIKE WORLD HISTORY DIE CHOOF!!