Frame Fix Log

[Dynam0]

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I also feel Stress Freestyle was fixed the "wrong way". The fixes reduced the swingy nature of the chart and even if having 2-framers throughout might seem unfair, it would feel closer to what was intended.

edit: just played it again to double-check and ehhh I can understand it I guess? It still has a bit of swing to it but not enough haha

The 2 framers in Nature of Dying seem to be a bit too much though...it's really a rock and a hard place scenario and it's too bad. If I ever chart something for this game I'd be reluctant to choose something that plays too far away from a good conversion. Good thing my only chart will forever be Croco and would never get in-game muahaha

[HammyMcSquirrel]

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Song Title: Bloodmeat [Heavy]
Song Artist: Protest the Hero
Link: https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...php?level=1220

Description of Issue(s)
There's a miscolored jump at around note 155 (the two red [34] jumps) in what looks like should be 8th intervals to match similar parts of the file.

[trumaestro]

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Song Title: Bloodmeat [Heavy]
Song Artist: Protest the Hero
Link: https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...php?level=1220

Description of Issue(s)
There's a miscolored jump at around note 155 (the two red [34] jumps) in what looks like should be 8th intervals to match similar parts of the file.

This one is likely deliberate. There are some times when this trick is done (and dore used this trick a fair bit) to keep the "downbeat" on red arrows despite the music changing with an odd time signature. A more obvious example of this trick is in White Walls part 1 starting around note 230.

[HammyMcSquirrel]

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This one is likely deliberate. There are some times when this trick is done (and dore used this trick a fair bit) to keep the "downbeat" on red arrows despite the music changing with an odd time signature. A more obvious example of this trick is in White Walls part 1 starting around note 230.

Interesting! I never paid enough attention to notice that be used before. I was trying to figure out why the converter would goof in that part but assumed that it was just some faulty function of it from the past that I was unaware of, since that's definitely happened before. Thanks for the info!

[DossarLX ODI]

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Going back to the requests listed in this post, I got around to a few tonight. I'll see what others I can get to after New Year's.

Crow's Ghost [Another] - shifted 64th gallop one frame earlier on Note 817. Song is half BPM in this part so that explains the two frame placement from earlier.

No Purpose Flour - fixed a few 64th gallops and the 48th roll section mentioned in the post.

Elesis Theme Song [Future Bass Remix] - updated the 8th jacks to be five frames apart where they were most egregious. Also updated white note placements to be zero frames apart in the screenshot given. The 4 frame hiccups in those jacks were due to the song being slightly faster than 180 BPM.

The above three changes have been uploaded.

With respect to THE FAUST, there are two given changes: the 2 frame hiccup from the 16th minijack jump into the quad to be shifted to 3 frames difference, and the 48th roll to start with the zero frame placement as it imitates a 255 BPM 32nd burst. Since the song is at 170 BPM, some of the 2 frame 16th placements are expected, but some might be more egregious than others -- so I'd like to take more time on this one.

But yeah, in summary, I recommend being sparing with framefixes and only doing them where a pattern really got messed up by conversion or at the will of the stepartist.

I also take these thoughts into consideration when doing frame adjustments. I look at surrounding notes, BPM, and several other things.

[DossarLX ODI]

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I'll Fight Back
- Made 32nd rolls consistent
- Adjusted the 2 frame 16th jack placements to 3 frames (155 BPM 16ths)

There's a NLP project I'm working on at my job that will occupy me for the next three days but I'm looking to finish up some more of the backlog mentioned in this post later in the week.

[DossarLX ODI]

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Find a Way Out [175 BPM]
- adjusted 192nd placements to snap to corresponding 4th and 8th notes

Good L_ck (Yo_'re F_cked) [178 BPM]
- adjusted 192nd placements to snap to corresponding 4th and 8th notes
- adjusted some 32nd gallops to be 1-frame placements instead of 2 frames to reperesent flams

AiAe [180 BPM]
- Adjusted 32nd bursts to be four 1-frame 32nd placements in a row, with a two frame gap in the next 4th or 8th note. This means the right-to-left and left-to-right 32nd rolls are all 1 frame placements on each hand, and the other 5-note 32nd bursts are consistent with being the 1-frame bursts in succession.

[AutotelicBrown]

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Bless you Dossar. I've been meaning to ask for frame fixes on Good L_ck since the file was released but felt bad as those frame gaps were entirely my fault.

[DossarLX ODI]

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THE FAUST [Heavy] [170 BPM]
- Minijack jump in the 16th jumptrill into the quad is now 3 frames vs. 2 frames
- Adjusted 16th minijacks and 3-note 16th jacks to be consistent placements
- 48th roll fixed to not have [23] inside of it
- Offset color note at the end adjusted to be where the 8th note placement was

[qrrbrbirbel]

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Song Title: Hiccup
Song Author: Knasibas
Link: https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...php?level=2839

The first and last minijack section (about 1/3 and 2/3 into the song) has badly converted 16ths that create unintentional cameljacks and hand-version cameljacks respectively

There's also a poorly converted, AAA-killing 32nd RIGHT on the reverse roll that transitions into the last fourth of the song.

[DossarLX ODI]

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Hiccup [160 BPM]
- Updated 32nd triplets to not be cameljacks/tight minijack triplets (3 frames apart on the 16th to 4th)
- Updated the 32nd roll near the end to have a smoother/consistent transition with the frames. The reversing of the roll pattern forces a minijack on the two adjacent 32nds a 16th apart, so that stayed 3 frames apart.

Unfortunately didn't have an opportunity to get to the other three in this post yet, but I did get to tackle Hiccup.

[DossarLX ODI]

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So I got a new laptop and I've got some other stuff to sort out this week, but if there are other requests feel free to leave them here -- the three remaining ones are very involved and I'll give more priority to looking at more recent files with requested changes indicated.

[rushyrulz]

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Song Title: Let's Get Crunk
Song Author: Gammer
Link: https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...php?level=2654

It's kind of a coin flip if the minijacks are 2-framers or 3-framers throughout the whole file, I assume that's just a symptom of BPM/conversion and probably applies to all the 16ths in the file, although they appear to crop up most frequently in the first minijack of a section.

example:
note 318: the first jack in this section is early. (link)

but the most score-breaking thing is the 3 rainbow hands which definitely should not be rainbow hands :P

~note 550 :
FFR: (link)
AV: (link)

~note 1070:
FFR: (link)
AV: (link)

~note 1135:
FFR: (link)
AV: (link)

There are also two grace notes that got snapped to the 8th / 16th, but I think they're natural enough and would probably be hit as a jump anyway by players. The locations of those are at 566 and 1144.

[Psychotik]

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Question: Can we request frame fixes here for charts in the accepted queue but aren't released yet?

[XelNya]

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Question: Can we request frame fixes here for charts in the accepted queue but aren't released yet?

I would venture having it prematurely might be of benefit.