Regarding all future officials

[Senri Akane]

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i feel like combo scoring isn't 'traditional' for tournaments, it's just what was there and therefore what was used. no sense miring ourselves further in a crappy system just because that system was there first

this



This is the reason why i hate legacy files

No ones gives a shit from the fact that its old and stupid

Take it away from the game

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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I'm honestly fine with two different tourneys and two different methods as it tests you on both forms of scoring FFR uses.

However

I'm also fine with one tourney and raw scoring, but one and combo scoring is just not acceptable anymore. Most unofficial tourneys run off raw scoring because it's more fair to everyone. It forces you to focus on your PA rather than making sure you don't miss and is a truer test of skill than "oh I missed, welp there goes teh uhrn"

[Netjet!]

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I'm honestly fine with two different tourneys and two different methods as it tests you on both forms of scoring FFR uses.

However

I'm also fine with one tourney and raw scoring, but one and combo scoring is just not acceptable anymore. Most unofficial tourneys run off raw scoring because it's more fair to everyone. It forces you to focus on your PA rather than making sure you don't miss and is a truer test of skill than "oh I missed, welp there goes teh uhrn"

I agree, as long as there's one tourney with raw scoring I think it would be fine either way. Like middie said, raw scoring is becoming / has become the most accepted way of doing it IMO

[DossarLX ODI]

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i feel like combo scoring isn't 'traditional' for tournaments, it's just what was there and therefore what was used. no sense miring ourselves further in a crappy system just because that system was there first

Agreed, plus the division affected the least from combo scoring is D6 because that division usually winds up being a difference of 1 good regardless of the round. D5 last tournament powerfull would have won if it was raw scoring (he had teens with one miss IIRC)

[VisD]

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Raw scoring all the way. Making the argument that "it's traditional" is a bit like saying "Let's just use telegram instead of the Internet because that's how our ancestors used to do it!"

[PrawnSkunk]

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[Coolboyrulez0]

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i'm all for doing it raw hehe

[qqwref]

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There's no good reason to use combo scoring for an official. The goal of a tournament is to gauge skill and it's pretty clear that combo scoring is a terrible measure of skill. As soon as the files get too difficult for people to score well on, it becomes a contest of mashing ability where the people who can get 0 misses will always be ahead of the people who can't, and where hitting that One Hard Part properly can be 100 times more important than your PA. Remember when the D1 final was Magical 8bit Tour and only one of the two people FC'd? Exactly.

[Lambdadelta]

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It's good to keep to our FFR origins but people are pushing for Raw scoring more and more, So I would have to go with Raw scoring.

Combo scoring is just going to be a thing of history, and Raw scoring is more accurate with skill range.

[yo man im awesome]

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i feel like combo scoring isn't 'traditional' for tournaments, it's just what was there and therefore what was used. no sense miring ourselves further in a crappy system just because that system was there first

oh my god this

I am so freaking tired of hearing "oh it's tradition" as an excuse to keep the most ridiculous things on FFR, like Combo Scoring.

[TC_Halogen]

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what people fail to understand is that combo scoring is not only a "tradition" of tournaments, but it's also the main form of scoring on FFR.

the tradition argument is useless on both sides, for/against raw scoring.

I chose combo scoring simply because in the end, it's not going to make much of a difference. Scores are typically full combos to pass, anyway. The rare scenario was last tournament's final in D5, with RagedBerserker's score teens without FC losing to a 24-1-0-3. The only reason a tournament final won't have FCs is if it's extremely stressful in terms of combo-breaking elements, like brutally fast bursts or tons of jacks.

[qqwref]

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what people fail to understand is that combo scoring is not only a "tradition" of tournaments, but it's also the main form of scoring on FFR.

I think everyone *understands* this. I'm not the only one who thinks it doesn't matter though. We know of a form of scoring that is better for tournaments, and has been used in many unofficial tournaments in the past with great success, so why not use it for this tournament?

It's not like using a different scoring system is at all difficult, now that we have the dashboard system. It's far easier than to change the scoring system on the engine itself or on the levelranks. With such an easy fix, that we know will help, why not do it?

[gabrieljd]

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it's not going to make much of a difference.

last tournament's final in D5

lol

Get rid of combo scoring in tournaments already, I'm not going to join but it's shameful we use such a stupid method of scoring in something official; Changing isn't even hard.

[psychoangel691]

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lol

Get rid of combo scoring in tournaments already, I'm not going to join but it's shameful we use such a stupid method of scoring in something official; Changing isn't even hard.

Stupid method of scoring in something official... FFR's main scoring system is combo scoring so technically it makes sense to use the scoring that the game does.

[iironiic]

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No overall preference but raw scoring encourages overall improvement in skill. I believe that improvement should be emphasized much more in many future tournaments. It challenges the player to attempt rather difficult patterns than having them try to hit every single arrow simply to pass the current round. Those who are more successful at this deserves to go much farther in the tournament than those trying to full combo a file.