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  • trumaestro
    I don't get no respect
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2006
    • 1332

    #7516
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

    What sort of qualifications does one need to be a judge and do I qualify

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    • Fission
      no
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2004
      • 1850

      #7517
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

      write some reviews to prove that you can look at a file objectively and distance yourself from personal bias

      don't really have that much time to elaborate, but i'll give you more information later if nobody replies

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      • YoshL
        Celestial Harbor
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Aug 2008
        • 6156

        #7518
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

        probably would need to talk to bmah about being a judge?


        Originally posted by Charu
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        • Fission
          no
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2004
          • 1850

          #7519
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

          yes but it still comes down to what i mentioned

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          • M0nkeyz
            Simfile Judge
            FFR Simfile Author
            • May 2013
            • 482

            #7520
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

            Originally posted by Fission
            write some reviews to prove that you can look at a file objectively and distance yourself from personal bias

            don't really have that much time to elaborate, but i'll give you more information later if nobody replies
            what is personal bias in relation to a file? whether it's your music type or whether you like the person who stepped the file? or whether you like burst more than stream etc?

            but isn't that the reason we have multiple judges to have people who prefer different things give their 2 cents?

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            • YoshL
              Celestial Harbor
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Aug 2008
              • 6156

              #7521
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

              Originally posted by M0nkeyz
              what is personal bias in relation to a file? whether it's your music type or whether you like the person who stepped the file? or whether you like burst more than stream etc?

              but isn't that the reason we have multiple judges to have people who prefer different things give their 2 cents?
              personal bias would be, "i hate this person so i'll give them a bad rating", or "i wanna suck up to this person so i'll give them 11/10s".

              not a good quality in a judge. your second point is already valid.


              Originally posted by Charu
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              • AlexDest
                good hot
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2007
                • 5309

                #7522
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                Originally posted by M0nkeyz
                what is personal bias in relation to a file? whether it's your music type or whether you like the person who stepped the file? or whether you like burst more than stream etc?

                but isn't that the reason we have multiple judges to have people who prefer different things give their 2 cents?
                Not sure if I'm understanding your second point, but...

                Personally, we can say something like, "This part of the song is charted wrong." However, we can't just dismiss a simfile with a bad rating because the stepartist did not chart this part of the song the way you expected it to be charted. It's more on looking at the stepartist's intentions on why they charted this part of the song the way they did. Simfile judges follow certain rules for simfiling. It's a basis on what we can look at what is considered objective at a community standpoint such as pitch relevancy, layering choices, accenting, flow of patterns, etc.
                Last edited by AlexDest; 10-30-2013, 11:32 AM.

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                • L.B.D.D
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 2949

                  #7523
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                  can you guys just start judging in chunks of 10 every 2 days

                  because hard batch took a month anyways, so if you guys do 10 every 2 days, you could finish 120 in 24 days which is acceptable

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                  • DossarLX ODI
                    Batch Manager
                    Game Manager
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 14989

                    #7524
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                    Originally posted by L.B.D.D
                    can you guys just start judging in chunks of 10 every 2 days

                    because hard batch took a month anyways, so if you guys do 10 every 2 days, you could finish 120 in 24 days which is acceptable
                    That's an amazing number when considering the fact the hard songs batch took 5 weeks to get notes in for 46 files
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                    • L.B.D.D
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 2949

                      #7525
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                      5 files a day doesn't seem that hard

                      if somebody's got time to shit they got time to judge

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                      • Zakvvv666
                        I catch fruit
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2861

                        #7526
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                        Since there seems to be a shortage of judges why not ask some people who have made several good files to judge and see if they can do a good job instead of waiting for people to say they can judge?


                        It just seems like there would be a full team much faster that way.



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                        • M0nkeyz
                          Simfile Judge
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • May 2013
                          • 482

                          #7527
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                          Originally posted by AlexDest
                          Not sure if I'm understanding your second point, but...

                          Personally, we can say something like, "This part of the song is charted wrong." However, we can't just dismiss a simfile with a bad rating because the stepartist did not chart this part of the song the way you expected it to be charted. It's more on looking at the stepartist's intentions on why they charted this part of the song the way they did. Simfile judges follow certain rules for simfiling. It's a basis on what we can look at what is considered objective at a community standpoint such as pitch relevancy, layering choices, accenting, flow of patterns, etc.
                          yeah, I understand i'ts kinda hard to judge though, cuz you have no idea what unique idea a stepcharter has with a certain part of the song. let's say there is a part where there is no significant sound to put steps to, but the sound of the keyboard can make a fun little rhythm while there is no sound. ofcourse it's not in sync, but it goes with the flow of the music.

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                          • Fission
                            no
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1850

                            #7528
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                            the current state of charting for FFR is to prefer technically accurate charts to ones that have what you are referring to as "ghost" notes (steps). my perception is that players would would rather choose to play a song that makes them feel like they are following the music rather than playing something that is seemingly random.

                            Originally posted by M0nkeyz
                            but it goes with the flow of the music
                            entirely dependent on context. if it's really energetic music, it might. if it's more technical in nature, it won't. either way, i still dislike ghost notes and would rather see a carefully crafted chart than a 16th stream through the entire file that looks like somebody just threw a bunch of arrows at their monitor to see where they stick.

                            Originally posted by M0nkeyz
                            cuz you have no idea what unique idea a stepcharter has with a certain part of the song
                            this isn't entirely true. a good judge can analyze a specific section in reference to other parts of the stepchart and devise a rational explanation as to why something was charted the way it is.
                            Last edited by Fission; 10-30-2013, 03:14 PM.

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                            • popsicle_3000
                              Legendary Noob
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 4641

                              #7529
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                              Originally posted by M0nkeyz
                              yeah, I understand i'ts kinda hard to judge though, cuz you have no idea what unique idea a stepcharter has with a certain part of the song. let's say there is a part where there is no significant sound to put steps to, but the sound of the keyboard can make a fun little rhythm while there is no sound. ofcourse it's not in sync, but it goes with the flow of the music.
                              would never get accepted

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                              • M0nkeyz
                                Simfile Judge
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • May 2013
                                • 482

                                #7530
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

                                Originally posted by popsicle_3000
                                would never get accepted
                                I still see a bunch of ghost notes in songs that are already in the game, but yeah I agree ghost notes are kinda lazy

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