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  • James May
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2012
    • 3817

    #61
    Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

    Almost There [Standard] - Accepted
    Looking back at it, the first two points I mentioned, I do agree with you on there after looking through it multiple times. I guess on my mindset, I had it set to where I was focusing on the flow and how the file would go to and fro like a story perse.

    With that being said, 1:13.363, there's a ghost note on there. Not sure if its because you have the rate set to 50% but with my headphones on I can't really distinguish that 16th with any sound at all. Might have been an accidental add that could be easily removed. But other than that, the file is good to go :3

    Decretum - Accepted
    Accepted due to the reasons Xel gave to the file.

    Dead Alus - Accepted
    Sync is fixed
    Fixes were made where warranted, I still disagree with the hands but I guess those are fine to be placed since they're going with the crashes.

    Does the Microwave Oven Dream of Electric Sheep - Needs fixes
    [ORIGINAL] https://i.imgur.com/WGXQkWB.png
    [Correct PR] https://i.imgur.com/EmQkKeN.png
    If the PR was 1234, and if you've sent the right version, then the intro hasn't been changed at all. And the guitar does go changing back and forth on the first four notes.

    - For the jump in 9.226, I was saying that it was a ghost due to the sound of the cymbal as opposed to the jumps on 9.005, 8.564, and 8.122; the sound itself isn't strong enough to warrant the jump as it is very, very faint compared to the other cymbals
    - For the jump on 35.152, that is one quiet guitar melody, even after lowering to to 50% rate and upping my volume a bit (normally have the volume set to 40 when using headphones). I still can't hear that guitar melody that you say that it goes to.
    + 1:09.023 - I stand corrected on that.
    - For the two 48ths, it doesn't have a prominent sound placement for it and even if the 8th does go to the precussions, the two 48ths feels very much out of place and there. Most of the time, when I say ghost, it is due to the lack of prominent sounds in the file itself where said notes are presented.
    - In regards to the solo, there are cymbals going to the 4ths that you are blatantly ignoring the jump placements for thos, hence why I was saying that if you're going to follow putting the jumps on the 8ths for the riffs, then you need to remove the jumps that goes to the cymbals. If you're going for the cymbals, then you have to layer the cymbals as jumps. You can't just simply just exchange the jumps without proper justification.
    - Missing a jump on 2:31.106 if you're following the jumps to the riff.

    Eternal Peace Is Nothing But An Illusion - FIX SYNC
    *note: I had to change the .mp3 file because the name for it was just jumbled gibberish that my Etterna could not load the audio file properly and was causing Arrow Vortex to not load the audio file properly.
    - sync is still off by a 64th and later on by a 48th
    **example 1: https://i.imgur.com/3oCRFAO.png
    **example 2: https://i.imgur.com/lS90OIr.png
    - And I made a slight error on 6.857 but there should be another 32nd on 7.533 upon hearing that section again.
    - For some reason, the sync is still not fixed at all. I'm not sure if its in regards to your global offset or what, but its not fixed and it sucks because the fixes are made in terms of the patterning and whatnot lmfao. And yes, this is the correct version that I have.

    Sonic Vision - Accepted
    Fixes are good to go
    bananas


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    • DossarLX ODI
      Batch Manager
      Game Manager
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2008
      • 14989

      #62
      Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

      Another BSE update is described below. Currently, everything in this post is reflected on the BSE except for the Early Release Special Batch submissions. Because the Early Release Special Batch is being done in two parts (May and June), the May portion of files need to be assembled into sets and then it will be put up on the BSE.

      Summary:
      - 8 files moved over to Accepted from Pending Fixes
      - 3 files moved back to Conditional Queue (Fix deadline July 29th, 2018)
      - 6 files moved over to Released
      - 2 fixes sent for Accepted files

      Pending Fix Updates

      DarkZtar
      Alone ⇒ Accepted
      Light of the Seven ⇒ Accepted
      The Candy Corn Witch ⇒ Accepted
      Tope Doge ⇒ Accepted
      Credits ⇒ Conditional Queue

      James May
      Almost There [Standard] ⇒ Accepted
      Decretum ⇒ Accepted
      Dead Alus ⇒ Accepted
      Sonic Vision ⇒ Accepted
      Does the Microwave Oven Dream of Electric Sheep ⇒ Conditional Queue
      Eternal Peace Is Nothing But An Illusion ⇒ Conditional Queue

      Song Release Updates

      Re: End of a Dream ⇒ Released
      The Call ⇒ Released
      ZOOQUU ⇒ Released
      Rainbow Archiver ⇒ Released
      Aggressor ⇒ Released
      Temple ⇒ Released

      Fixes for Accepted files

      Area A (MarioNintendo) [May 3, 2018 at 8:10 PM]
      Neo-Bushido (M0nkeyz) [May 5, 2018 at 12:55 PM]

      Early Release Special Batch Submissions

      The March/April 2018 submissions are being moved over to the Early Release Special Batch (May portion). The March/April 2018 will be removed on the BSE and replaced with the Early Release Special Batch instead.

      For May, the Early Release Special Batch has 10 submissions including the transfers.

      Early Release Special Batch Submissions in May
      Chik Habit v2 (Shxfted) [May 12, 2018 at 2:52 PM]
      No Time For Sleep (Pizza69) [May 22, 2018 at 10:33 PM]
      Personal Discourse (ositzxz369) [May 29, 2018 at 6:42 PM]
      Alien Lair (MarioNintendo) [May 1, 2018 at 8:56 PM]

      Transfers from March/April 2018 into May
      Chainsaw Fellatio (ositzxz369) [Mar 30, 2018 at 7:24 PM]
      Cobra Commander (ositzxz369) [Apr 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM]
      Tightwad (Deamerai) [Apr 20, 2018 at 7:03 PM]
      The April Sunshine Shed [Short Edit] (Deamerai) [Apr 20, 2018 at 7:03 PM]
      EBONY & IVORY [Heavy] (Ghost_Medley) [Apr 22, 2018 at 4:33 PM]
      Thrill Me (Kaitou Swinger's Theme) (Ghost_Medley) [Apr 28, 2018 at 8:00 PM]
      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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      • DossarLX ODI
        Batch Manager
        Game Manager
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2008
        • 14989

        #63
        Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

        For the June section of the Early Release Special Batch (now closed), there were 21 submissions:

        Guitar 24 (Deamerai) [May 3, 2018]**
        Deadman DJ (ositzxz369) [Jun 3, 2018 at 4:30 AM]
        Stress (Skullbac) [Jun 5, 2018 at 9:05 PM]
        Chronos (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
        Dark Chancellor's Invisible Secret Robot Castle (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
        Wanderflux (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
        Marill (Gender is not a Binary) (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
        Waterlily Junction (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
        rainy beauty [Heavy] (bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 3:29 AM]
        WOW WOW 220 (bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 3:30 AM]
        lightfoot (bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 3:34 AM]
        Tunnelling (PrawnSkunk & bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 10:47 PM]
        Miserable Bastard (Shxfted) [Jun 30, 2018 at 12:36 PM]
        Chain Lightning (M0nkeyz) [Jun 30, 2018 at 6:02 PM]
        Laughing Puppet (Deamerai) [Jun 30, 2018 at 6:08 PM]
        endleSSStation (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
        Force of Light v2 (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
        L (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
        Longinus (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
        Yamada Stream (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
        Fly of Beelzebub (AutotelicBrown) [Jun 30, 2018 at 11:50 PM]

        **First e-mail did not go through, so this is being included in the June portion.

        To summarize the Sets for both the May and June sections of the Early Release Special Batch:

        May Section

        Early Release (May) Set 1
        Chainsaw Fellatio
        Cobra Commander
        EBONY & IVORY [Heavy]
        Personal Discourse
        Thrill Me (Kaitou Swinger's Theme)

        Early Release (May) Set 2
        Alien Lair
        Chik Habit v2
        No Time For Sleep
        The April Sunshine Shed
        Tightwad

        June Section

        Early Release (June) Set 1
        Chronos
        Dark Chancellor's Invisible Secret Robot Castle
        Deadman DJ
        Guitar 24
        Stress

        Early Release (June) Set 2
        lightfoot
        rainy beauty [Heavy]
        Tunnelling
        Wanderflux
        WOW WOW 220

        Early Release (June) Set 3
        Chain Lightning
        Laughing Puppet
        Marill (Gender is not a Binary)
        Miserable Bastard
        Waterlily Junction

        Early Release (June) Set 4
        endleSSStation
        Fly of Beelzebub
        Force of Light v2
        L
        Longinus
        Yamada Stream
        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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        • Duplica
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2011
          • 205

          #64
          Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

          heads up - yamada stream should be named hyper weaboo vodka shots
          u look like shit

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          • DossarLX ODI
            Batch Manager
            Game Manager
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2008
            • 14989

            #65
            Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

            Originally posted by Duplica
            heads up - yamada stream should be named hyper weaboo vodka shots
            Thanks for the heads up.

            On another note, the Set 2 notes for Early Release Special Batch (May) are now up.
            Originally posted by hi19hi19
            oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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            • DossarLX ODI
              Batch Manager
              Game Manager
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2008
              • 14989

              #66
              Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

              For those who read the most recent Weekly Batch Update, I took an unofficial break for a few weeks and now I'm getting back into the swing of things again. An update was just done on the BSE for the past two months.

              Released Charts
              Reading Rainbow ⇒ Released
              V1 v2 ⇒ Released

              Batches
              March 2018 ⇒ Changed to Early Release Special Batch

              Added Early Release Special Batch
              There were 31 Submissions in total. You can see the submissions in this page as well.

              May Submissions
              Chik Habit v2 (Shxfted) [May 12, 2018 at 2:52 PM]
              No Time For Sleep (Pizza69) [May 22, 2018 at 10:33 PM]
              Personal Discourse (ositzxz369) [May 29, 2018 at 6:42 PM]
              Alien Lair (MarioNintendo) [May 1, 2018 at 8:56 PM]
              Chainsaw Fellatio (ositzxz369) [Mar 30, 2018 at 7:24 PM]
              Cobra Commander (ositzxz369) [Apr 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM]
              Tightwad (Deamerai) [Apr 20, 2018 at 7:03 PM]
              The April Sunshine Shed [Short Edit] (Deamerai) [Apr 20, 2018 at 7:03 PM]
              EBONY & IVORY [Heavy] (Ghost_Medley) [Apr 22, 2018 at 4:33 PM]
              Thrill Me (Kaitou Swinger's Theme) (Ghost_Medley) [Apr 28, 2018 at 8:00 PM]

              June Submissions
              Guitar 24 (Deamerai) [May 3, 2018]
              Deadman DJ (ositzxz369) [Jun 3, 2018 at 4:30 AM]
              Stress (Skullbac) [Jun 5, 2018 at 9:05 PM]
              Chronos (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
              Dark Chancellor's Invisible Secret Robot Castle (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
              Wanderflux (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
              Marill (Gender is not a Binary) (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
              Waterlily Junction (kommisar) [Jun 18, 2018 at 7:09 PM]
              rainy beauty [Heavy] (bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 3:29 AM]
              WOW WOW 220 (bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 3:30 AM]
              lightfoot (bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 3:34 AM]
              Tunnelling (PrawnSkunk & bmah) [Jun 28, 2018 at 10:47 PM]
              Miserable Bastard (Shxfted) [Jun 30, 2018 at 12:36 PM]
              Chain Lightning (M0nkeyz) [Jun 30, 2018 at 6:02 PM]
              Laughing Puppet (Deamerai) [Jun 30, 2018 at 6:08 PM]
              endleSSStation (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
              Force of Light v2 (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
              L (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
              Longinus (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
              Yamada Stream ⇒ hyper weaboo vodka shots (DarkZtar) [Jun 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM]
              Fly of Beelzebub (AutotelicBrown) [Jun 30, 2018 at 11:50 PM]

              Early Release Special Batch May Results Update

              May Set 1
              Thrill Me ⇒ Rejected
              EBONY & IVORY [Heavy] ⇒ Rejected
              Personal Discourse ⇒ Rejected
              Cobra Commander ⇒ Rejected
              Chainsaw Fellatio ⇒ Rejected

              May Set 2
              Chik Habit v2 ⇒ Accepted
              Tightwad ⇒ Accepted
              The April Sunshine Shed ⇒ Accepted
              No Time For Sleep ⇒ Conditional Queue
              Alien Lair ⇒ Rejected
              Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 08-11-2018, 04:25 PM.
              Originally posted by hi19hi19
              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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              • DossarLX ODI
                Batch Manager
                Game Manager
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Mar 2008
                • 14989

                #67
                Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                I went and took a look at the Pending Fixes for Hesperides [Aug 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM] and Castorpollux [Jul 6, 2017 at 5:11 AM]. They addressed all the ** comments and are now Accepted.
                Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 08-12-2018, 09:58 AM.
                Originally posted by hi19hi19
                oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                • VisD
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1196

                  #68
                  Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                  Sent fixes for Credits lol

                  edit: whoops noticed Darkztar's notes from previous page. Fixed them up. pls use file in email from 12/1
                  Last edited by VisD; 12-1-2018, 11:09 AM.


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                  • DossarLX ODI
                    Batch Manager
                    Game Manager
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 14989

                    #69
                    Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                    The Batch Search Engine has just been updated! The following changes were made, considering the results as of now. See https://dossar.me/bse/queue/ for the current queue.

                    Accepted ⇒ Released (17)
                    Alice in misanthrope
                    Alone
                    Beep Beep I’m a Sheep
                    Chik Habit v2
                    Dead Alus
                    Decretum
                    Happy Birthday
                    Light of the Seven (Ghost in the Machine Cover)
                    Sonic Vision
                    Starbound
                    Stress
                    System Doctor v2
                    The April Sunshine Shed
                    The Candy Corn Witch
                    Tightwad
                    Tunnelling
                    Welcome to My Kastle

                    Conditional Queue ⇒ Pending Fixes
                    Does the Microwave Oven Dream of Electric Sheep [Jun 30, 2018, 9:00 PM]
                    Eternal Peace is Nothing But An Illusion [Jun 30, 2018, 9:00 PM]
                    No Time For Sleep [Jul 15, 2018, 7:16 PM]
                    Credits [Dec 1, 2018, 1:10 PM]

                    Early Release Special Batch Updates
                    Chronos => Rejected
                    Dark Chancellor's Invisible Secret Robot Castle => Conditional Queue
                    Deadman DJ => Rejected
                    Guitar 24 => Rejected
                    lightfoot => Pending Fixes (Appeal) [Sep 30, 2018, 6:10 AM]
                    rainy beauty [Heavy] => Pending Fixes [Sep 30, 2018, 6:10 AM]
                    Stress => Released
                    Tunnelling => Released
                    Wanderflux => Conditional Queue
                    WOW WOW 220 => Pending Fixes [Sep 30, 2018, 6:10 AM]
                    Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 03-17-2019, 04:51 PM.
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                    • DossarLX ODI
                      Batch Manager
                      Game Manager
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 14989

                      #70
                      Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                      I've compiled the list of Pending Fixes and who the original judges were. I'll also see how I can help with moving these Pending Fixes forward to Accepted.

                      Any of the songs that are highlighted in green indicate accepted fixes.

                      > James May (3)
                      Does the Microwave Oven Dream of Electric Sheep
                      Eternal Peace is Nothing But An Illusion
                      No Time For Sleep


                      > DarkZtar (4)
                      lightfoot
                      rainy beauty [Heavy]
                      WOW WOW 220
                      Credits

                      > DossarLX ODI (1)
                      Hesperides

                      > psychoangel691 (2)
                      Polis Ruin
                      La Tristesse Durera Toujours

                      > TC_Halogen (2)
                      Horizon
                      Iggy

                      > trumaestro (1)
                      Castorpollux

                      > Wayward Vagabond (4)
                      Blue Army V2
                      Glitchcraft
                      Verse IV
                      Violent Arcade
                      Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 06-29-2019, 03:26 PM.
                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

                      Comment

                      • DossarLX ODI
                        Batch Manager
                        Game Manager
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 14989

                        #71
                        Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                        James May reviewed his assigned Pending Fixes. All are Accepted, although Eternal Peace Is Nothing But An Illusion has a slight sync issue that can be resolved easily.
                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                        • Awww_muffin
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 37

                          #72
                          Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                          can i submit my original work to be used on ffr? im a musician, i make battle music.

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                          • SubaruPoptart
                            da kyo~
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 736

                            #73
                            Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                            Originally posted by Awww_muffin
                            can i submit my original work to be used on ffr? im a musician, i make battle music.
                            Yeah, I think you can just make a lil thread in permissions 'n what not saying whether you give blanket or limited permission for your music assuming permission hasn't already been given






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                            if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
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                            • gold stinger
                              Signature Extraordinare~~
                              Event Staff
                              Game Manager
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6428

                              #74
                              Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                              A few notable changes will be coming to batch this year. Not all of it will take place immediately, but some of it will be noticable immediately. This small write-up will go over all of the changes happening:

                              Starting immediately, 'Light Accept' will be known as 'Change Recommended', and 'Conditional Queue' will be known as 'Fixes Required'. This is being done to disambiguate Light Accept and Conditional Queue for newer stepartists, and also make it clear & concise what sort of action either status entails, since not everyone may know what a Light Accept could mean for their song unless they've been up-to-date on the past year of changes in batch.

                              Also starting immediately, will be the standardization of wait time for submissions in batch after they've received judge notes to 1 month. This means that if a file gets a 'Fixes Required' (formerly Conditional Queue) status, and receives zero response from the stepartist in that time period, it will be rejected. Likewise, zero response for accepted files will be moved forward through the batch system for difficulty rating after 1 month.

                              For files that do receive comments, responses, or fixes, the wait time will be reduced to 2 weeks (14 days). The 2 week reduction will not take place for already closed batches, only the open batches at the time of this post (OT15, event token, Jan/Feb) due to checkboxes being added that will allow such expediting of files in batch.

                              On the topic of 'adding checkboxes', there will be an added checkbox when responding to a 'Change Recommended' (formerly Light Accept) status in batch. If your song receives this status, you must read/acknowledge the notes provided by the judges by checking this box before the song can be accepted. This is being introduced to help provide a meaningful difference between 'Accepted' and 'Light Accept', and also help facilitate the initial purpose of 'Change Recommended', which was to heavily recommend fixes rather than require fixes (CQ/Fixes Required) or not worry about them (Accepted). This gives Stepartists the room to still treat the file as 'Accepted', but acknowledge judge notes/fixes in the process. Songs with the 'Change Recommended' status that do not get a response within the 1 month wait period will be rejected. This will not be enacted until judgments start coming out for the currently open batches (OT15, event token, Jan/Feb) and will not affect currently closed batches.

                              Furthermore, there will be a checkbox available when submitting fixes for a file that allows you to mark a set of submitted fixes as "The last fix for the song". Doing so will tell us that you are done working on the song, and we will make sure it isn't subjected to the full 1 month wait period by pushing it forward to Difficulty Consultants to be rated.

                              Lastly, there has been some conversation batch-wise recently about songs being rejected for song choice. After a fair bit of deliberation on the topic, we decided that the system for rejection over song choice will be as follows:
                              A judge finds that a particular song has extremely harsh noise or unpleasant sounds/peaks within the file. The song is then shared across all judges, for input on if it's something acceptable as-is, or would need changes to the audio itself to be acceptable. In the case where the audio itself needs changes, that information will then be relayed to the stepartist, under a 'Fixes Required' (formerly Conditional Queue) status at a maximum. If no fixes to the audio are received within the 1 month wait time, then it will be rejected.

                              tl;dr
                              Light Accept = Change Recommended
                              Conditional Queue = Fixes Required
                              Time between judge notes to rejection/accept for changes is 1 month.
                              It's 2 weeks if you make fixes/responses early.
                              New checkbox for read/acknowledging notes for Change Recommended status.
                              New checkbox for submitting final fixed version for all statuses.
                              We can/will set 'Fixes Required' status for abrasive/hard-to-listen-to audio in songs.
                              This will all start to be enforced once the current batches close, except for the name change of 'Light Accept' & 'Conditional Queue', that starts today.
                              Originally posted by YoshL
                              butts.



                              - Tosh 2014






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                              • Skayles
                                🍓 おいしい女子。。。🍓
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jul 2020
                                • 174

                                #75
                                Re: Rules/Submission Guidelines

                                good hot, especially the final version check box and more clear terms for LA and CQ
                                Originally posted by ositzxz369

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