Québec bill 195

[kommisar[os]]

Bill 195

In October 2007, PQ deputy Daniel Turp authored Bill 195, the "Quebec Identity Act", which included a requirement that immigrants must learn French to obtain rights, including a putative Quebec citizenship and the right to run in elections at all levels. The draft legislation concedes, though, that since Quebec is not sovereign, it does not have any jurisdiction over citizenship. Article 49.2 of the draft notes landed immigrants cannot obtain the status of "Quebec citizen" if they are not also Canadian citizens. The bill also proposed the fundamental values of Quebec that should be taken account in a future constitution, including equality between sexes and the predominance of French.


Not to bash Québec or anything, but I always thought Canada was more about diversity not assimilation.

[funmonkey54]

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As did I.
I find this interesting.
Although, I can't say I blame them. We have an entire country, USA, doing the same thing with Mexican immigrants.

[Vendetta21]

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Quebec is not indicative of the greater Canada. Hell, Quebec still operates under common law instead of judicial law. It is kind of a weird place. I would say there is your typical Canadian, and then there is your typical Quebecois, and the two are vastly different.

[tuv]

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I live in quebec myself most of the people here are french and hate canada themselves. Quebec also tried to separate from Canada on multiple occasions. My girlfriend works at Wal-Mart and they ad to destroy alot of there stock because it didn't have french instructions. Also if you ask a frenchman out of Quebec what nationality he is he will say proudly "Je suis Quebecois" not I am canadian. Most people here don't even celebrate Canada day. It's a shame to because we have the largest province with the second most population so a separatist party is always in parliament. But Quebec people are not really racist to Immigrants they just passed that law because they want the french in their province to live on.

[i love gabba]

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Most of Quebec citizens are PQist, pretty obvious, and there are no reasons why french should be the one and only spoken language in Quebec. French isn't going to disappear here.

I got to say this: English is WAY easier to learn than french.

Quebec IS still a part of Canada, and I (personally) am against Quebec not being a part of it anymore, because it is!

Also if you ask a frenchman out of Quebec what nationality he is he will say proudly "Je suis Quebecois" not I am canadian. Most people here don't even celebrate Canada day.

I would say there is your typical Canadian, and then there is your typical Quebecois, and the two are vastly different.

I agree with this. The typical "Quebecois" will tend to copy others, and I know what I'm talking about.

I hope Quebec will become/stay open-minded.

[kommisar[os]]

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they have this mentality that they can't afford to lose their french language (same applies for french acadians here in new-brunswick) even though they're a majority. This happens even in montréal where there is a great english population (mainly used for commercial purposes). I know some people who don't speak a word of french in there. This means they have no rights even though they're canadian citizens. It's like saying someone from quebec who doesn't speak english moves to ontario but doesn't have any rights cuz he's french. Lots of discrimination in that bill


I speak french and english and legally I can speak any language I wish weather it be german polish or spanish. We live in Canada and Québec, weather the bloquistes agree or not, is part of it. It's not another country therefore Canada's federal laws should still apply there. Any Canadian citizen within the country's limits should have the same rights no matter which province they live in. Inuits and PQ's have the same rights in other words.

[bluguerrilla]

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Except you don't need to speak English to be a U.S. citizen with full rights.

That bill is crap.

[Jokee]

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Not to bash Québec or anything, but I always thought Canada was more about diversity not assimilation.

The number of french speaking Quebecers keep decreasing over the years. I heard that french speakers represent 2% of the population in North America.

English already tried to assimilate us a few times.

I mean, we were here first XD

Except you don't need to speak English to be a U.S. citizen with full rights.

That bill is crap.

Except USA has about 40 times more people than Québec.

[kommisar[os]]

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Forced assimilation hasn't been an issue for quebec since the confederation. By being assholes to the rest of canada, they're not seen as good people by others. France hates quebec even though they're both strictly french and quebec comes from a french colony.

[Jokee]

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What? France doesn`t hate Quebec.

[i love gabba]

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This happens even in montréal where there is a great english population (mainly used for commercial purposes). I know some people who don't speak a word of french in there.

We live in Canada and Québec, whether the bloquistes agree or not, is part of it. It's not another country

Yes, There's the West mount part in Montreal, no french there.

And yes again, people consider Quebec as another country way too much.

What? France doesn`t hate Quebec.

Yes, I went there once, Some of the cashier weren't acting nicely with us, because "We're from Quebec and we're vulgarizing french"

[kommisar[os]]

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What? France doesn`t hate Quebec.

for the most part, they hate the separatists. If you're not, they won't mind you.


Last time i was in montreal, the west part (mcgill) was 100% english, I wasn't even spoken to in french once. The east part was full of separatists with picketing signs =/

[Jokee]

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I guess it really depends on the person. I spoke with a few french and they didn't look like they hated us or anything.

[devonin]

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What? France doesn`t hate Quebec.

The President of France just went on public record stating his support for a unified Canada, and opposing the idea of a seperate Quebec. While he might not hate Quebec, he's certainly not visibly in support of the seperatist movement.

"I've always been a friend of Canada, it's something very constant in my political life. ... If anyone tries to tell me that the world today needs an additional division, then they don't have the same read of the world as me," Mr. Sarkozy said. "I don't know why a fraternal, familial love of Quebec would have to be nourished through defiance toward Canada."

[Cavernio]

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I'm not french, have never lived in Quebec, but if there were another referendum about having quebec separate, I'd probably vote for them to do so. It's stupid and against one's rights to keep people part of a country when they don't want to be. If Quebec wants to be about assimilation, let them be that way. That's no different from most of the world's countries. However, I do think it's overboard to make speaking french a necessity. If french is that strong a language there anyways, no one who couldn't speak it would be able to run in an election, and you'll need to learn some french to live there anyways. If french isn't that strong, then you shouldn't enforce it. Hey, it's like I think common law should run Quebec :-p

I do recall one incident I was pretty upset at though. I had stopped in Montreal while traveling on the train, and was walking around during my stop-over, and asked a lady 'Es-ce que vous avez le temp?', and she got all bitchy at me that I said it wrong, saying "l'heure". Talk about no respect. I didn't even live there, I might'nt have even been Canadian, and yet she felt justified to get upset at me. If she hadn't been rude about it, I wouldn't be upset about it to this day.