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  • sarahxjane
    FFR Veteran
    • Aug 2005
    • 2109

    #16
    Re: Love, what is it?

    Love is merely another feeling that is triggered from your brain.
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    • WillTalbot
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2006
      • 579

      #17
      Re: Love, what is it?

      Originally posted by Zythus
      Thats an interesting aspect Will, but aside from the whole idea of religion, which is irrelevant, your deposession would be considered devotion? Seeing how if the mutuality of the relationship was accepted, sure, just maybe. However, I would interject that possessive and ego is a characteristic of love, if thats what you mean by tag. I have yet to see purity in love because its immensely political.

      As one? do care to explain. How do they feel? How do they justify this purity by being as one?
      While religion may be irrelivant it may also influence the truth so it should be taken into consideration. Since it can neither be proven false nor true, it should be stated as possible which I am mearly doing. I don't quite understand what you mean by "your deposession would be considered devotion?" but i think that you mean that by breaking away from all that is but yourself that is considered devotion to your own breaking away ... once again correct me if I'm wrong. But if that is what you mean then don't you think its possible that you can be without any influence, just completely in oneself without trying? For example, does a baby who is born, with no understand of anything in the world "try" to become free of what we consider bad or good or ... whatever ... bottom line is that it just doesn't try. And an important aspect to remember is that the thought of becoming pure is not even in its sub conscious! So technically purity could be without knoldge ... actually i just thought about that but i guess thats a seperate topic.

      I'm also not quite sure what you mean by "I have yet to see purity in love because its immensely political." but I'm assuming that you mean that love is so variable with so many interpretations that it would be difficult to find pure love? and even that in itself is variable. lol i'd love to discuss this with you as i too have alot of unanswered questions that i want clarified but i think we both could use a little more clarification.

      Well those last questions you asked in your statement are very deep in philisophy atleast to my belief and alot of this is opinion based because if anything were proven to be true, there would nothing to be debated about ... except its being proven true be proven true ... ugh confusing. But ANYWAY I believe that EVERYTHING in nature is one because we are all composed of the same atomic unit, which are atoms! But not only in that are we similar but in spirituality. As for how they feel ... I'm not quite sure since i haven't experienced this for myself but i would presume they would feel EXTREMELY happy, or just not feel at all. And the last statement is easy to dispute because what i'm about to tell you might make the most sense out of what im saying, when we are brought into this world we are ourselves and purely that, as we gain knoledge and understanding we start to drift apart from ourselves, but not in all cases. Anyway, in relation to this topic i believe a pure relationship if composed of two pure people, they don't justify that they are pure, that would be considered using the ego, they just are like the clouds and animals, they just are. Without knowing. I know it is SO HARD to imagine something like this being possible because of our society's influence on our minds but you can't say that it is not possible because you can't prove its not, and if so please do ^_^

      I remember this statement from a modern day philosopher known as Michael Tsarion that sort of opened my eyes a bit. And this is not an exact quote but a dog does not see a human for what the humans see themselves as, the dog sees the human for what it purely is, while you can't really prove it, as you can't really prove much it is something i believe because dogs don't have the capacity to logically think things out, so according to my believe they are pure because of that.

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      • Zythus
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2007
        • 346

        #18
        Re: Love, what is it?

        Truncated.
        Last edited by Zythus; 09-25-2009, 06:47 PM.

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        • AquaTeen
          FFR Player
          • Jul 2005
          • 78

          #19
          Re: Love, what is it?

          IDK what love is. I feel that love is a stronger feeling of likeliness towards another individual but I also feel that no one can truly know what love really is because to love is to be infatuated so love is basically infatuation. Love seems to be a non-existent feeling. But that's just how I feel other people are entitled to their own opinion concerning love.
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          • StringsnKeys
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2007
            • 87

            #20
            Re: Love, what is it?

            Love is everything that hate is not. Funny how no one seems to have a hard time describing how much they can hate someone...........

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            • Bolth mannn
              FFR Veteran
              • Aug 2008
              • 2228

              #21
              Re: Love, what is it?

              Love is where your heart is.

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              • Reach
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                • Jun 2003
                • 7471

                #22
                Re: Love, what is it?

                We can play the semantics game all day long, but I'll go ahead and define it.

                It's the summation of various feelings/senses, and definitely has a neurochemical basis probably centralized in the limbic system. At the most basic level, I would characterize it by strong affection, attachment and lust all rolled into one, though I suppose it can be broken up into any of those alone in certain circumstances.

                From there, you could break those 3 feelings down by neurotransmitter and cortical area. Some of the culprits should be obvious. Testosterone and estrogen are definitely the driving factor in sexual attraction. Attachment is largely controlled by posterior pituitary hormones, and affection by dopamine, serotonin, epi/norepi and probably NGF.

                You could consider love as a larger phenomenon, i.e. a social and cultural one as well. This starts to become complex, as social and cultural factors can bend and shape the manifestation of the neurochemical basis of love.

                As such, it's not hard to see that this complexity makes it hard to talk about and define love, as it is can't be described by only the chemical level, the individual level or the population level. You would need to integrate all of these factors into a coherent model before you could adequately describe love, but I don't think it's necessary in order to understand what it is.

                It's an affectionate emotion that bonds people, stemming from processes and natural drives inside of your brain that branches off and is molded by social and cultural factors.

                More specifically, wiki defines it well: "love is a type of interpersonal relationship where mutual assumption of good faith results in a state of emergence, i.e. constituents individually perceive the group's social evolution as both beneficial and greater than what could be achieved by the sum of the relationship's parts."
                Last edited by Reach; 01-19-2009, 03:14 PM.

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                • Cavernio
                  sunshine and rainbows
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 1987

                  #23
                  Re: Love, what is it?

                  Love is an emotion.

                  When responding to another poster, Zythus said that religion doesn't come into play here, but I disagree. Religion is so widespread and popular because it elicits strong, positive emotions, like love.

                  I think that the most 'pure' form of love, ie: a love which exists with the least amount of, apparently, negative things like possesiveness, is love one feels for God.
                  I'm guessing you've never been religious Zythus, or if you have, it's been more of a practice than a feeling, but even then, you should be able to ponder at some of the actions people who worship god do. People at christian rallies act like buffoons. They look absolutely ecstatic about it too. They worship God. Worship is a form of love which does not carry negativity in it. It's just hard to worship a real person, because everyone has flaws. God, by definition, doesn't. As to possessiveness, there's enough God to go around, and people who are in love with God want to spread the news about God because it feels so ****ing awesome and it's good to share love.

                  Love where someone does not see the other person's flaws does happen, I've seen it, but after spending so much time with a person, this view eventually dissipates. Worship of a person is also rather stupid, because it allows for things Hitler's reign of terror. God in actuality is neither evil or good, it's just a concept, but most religions have centered around them that you are to be nice to other people.
                  Last edited by Cavernio; 03-31-2009, 06:42 AM.

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                  • Bolth mannn
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2228

                    #24
                    Re: Love, what is it?

                    Love is the first stage of Cannibalism.

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                    • ShAiOnEi
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 1110

                      #25
                      Re: Love, what is it?

                      Love is stupid I'd rather just get to the point of it all if you know what I mean. 8)
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                      • dean_machine
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1267

                        #26
                        Re: Love, what is it?

                        Originally posted by ShAiOnEi
                        Love is stupid I'd rather just get to the point of it all if you know what I mean. 8)
                        Then you don't understand that the point of love is love itself.

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                        • Nyokou
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                          • Apr 2005
                          • 4246

                          #27
                          Re: Love, what is it?

                          Originally posted by ShAiOnEi
                          Love is stupid I'd rather just get to the point of it all if you know what I mean. 8)
                          To love, you need to be loved. An emotion that is supposed to be a parents' job of passing on to his/her child. Unfortunately, certain circumstances have kept you, Shai, and many other people, from having that parental love. It's very difficult for someone in that situation to understand what it means to love another person. And it's quite obvious with you since you simply stated that "love is stupid", yet I would like for you to further expand on that claim. Why is it stupid to you?
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                          • danthemano
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 263

                            #28
                            Re: Love, what is it?

                            I believe that love is the longing to find something that completes you, and shows who you are. The things you love are what defines you. I believe that patience is also important when it comes to love, thats why so many people get divorced in modern times: their longing for love blinds them to the facts that point away from that particular relationship working out.
                            Originally posted by Bolth mannn
                            Love is the first stage of Cannibalism.
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                            Originally posted by ShAiOnEi
                            Love is stupid I'd rather just get to the point of it all if you know what I mean. 8)
                            ignorance is bliss, as they say.
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                            • GG_Guru
                              Let em' do what they want
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 3219

                              #29
                              Re: Love, what is it?

                              Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. It rejoices over the evil and is the truth seeker. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. Always stand steadfast in love, not fall into it. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. Love can occur between two or more individuals. It bonds them and connects them in a unified link of trust, intimacy and interdependence. It enhances the relationship and comforts the soul. Love should be experienced and not just felt. The depth of love can not be measured. Look at the relationship between a mother and a child. The mother loves the child unconditionally and it can not be measured at all. A different dimension can be attained between any relationships with the magic of love. Love can be created. You just need to focus on the goodness of the other person. If this can be done easily, then you can also love easily. And remember we all have some positive aspect in us, no matter how bad our deeds maybe. And as God said "Love all".

                              From http://www.love-sessions.com/whatislove.htm
                              Last edited by GG_Guru; 05-16-2009, 12:26 PM.

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                              • Frozen Beat
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                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1092

                                #30
                                Re: Love, what is it?

                                Nyokou, you don't need to be loved to love -_____-
                                You could love someone and they might not love you back. It's called "not getting someone you love" lol.

                                Love is a the strong pleasant emotion to another person, whether it is one way or not.

                                At the same time, love could simply be a burning illusion, and sometimes you should turn the page in your life before it gets f*cking scortched =].

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